Death is not final?

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From the YT channel Intelligence Squared hosted a debate with Eben Alexander, Ray Moody, Sean Carroll and Steve Novella. I'm sure members will like it.
Death is not final?
Steve, I think your link isn't accurate (?).
I'm assuming this is right video.
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(2020-11-26, 02:16 PM)Ninshub Wrote: Steve, I think your link isn't accurate (?).

I just scrolled down a bit, it was in the list. I was quite excited but I’d seen it some years before!
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Huh. Let's see if this works. https://youtu.be/h0YtL5eiBYw
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(2020-11-26, 03:03 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: I just scrolled down a bit, it was in the list. I was quite excited but I’d seen it some years before!

Yeah it even got discussed on Skeptiko years back.
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(2020-11-26, 04:21 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: Yeah it even got discussed on Skeptiko years back.

Gee, things appeared much clearer to me back then! See post #116.   LOL
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(2020-11-26, 04:33 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: Gee, thing appeared much clearer to me back then! See post #116.   LOL

It's a bit like looking at old high school photos isn't it?

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6 years, bloody hell. I wonder sometimes how debates like that would go nowdays, with new evidence that's come out slowly over time, especially with things like mediumship meta analysis ect. Though, I suppose nowdays most parapsychology researches don't give much of a damn anymore about the stuff that skeptics recyle.
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(2020-11-26, 01:36 PM)Steve001 Wrote: From the YT channel Intelligence Squared hosted a debate with Eben Alexander, Ray Moody, Sean Carroll and Steve Novella. I'm sure members will like it.
Death is not final?

God, watching the full thing makes me hurt inside. Skeptical people can admit that in parapsychology there is some interesting bits of data that deserve more study, even if it's to dismiss them, but what the 'against' put forward here wasn't even close to the best. 

Also, skeptical side really knows how to play their audience, cause I swear they always come off like smug pricks. It's like "Okay so here's the data we have and why we think it's true" vs "Well here's how things ACTUALLY are what you think is true cant be scientifically possible you wishful thinking gullible idiots."
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