AWARE-II NDE study was published

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I hope this hasn't already been covered somewhere. I searched for AWARE and AWARE-II on here but got back so many results it wasn't very helpful in narrowing things down. Nothing jumped out as having mentioned that the study has been finally published. I don't have the paper but there's a discussion of it here: https://awareofaware.co/2023/07/11/aware...sociation/

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(2023-07-18, 02:06 AM)RViewer88 Wrote: I hope this hasn't already been covered somewhere. I searched for AWARE and AWARE-II on here but got back so many results it wasn't very helpful in narrowing things down. Nothing jumped out as having mentioned that the study has been finally published. I don't have the paper but there's a discussion of it here: https://awareofaware.co/2023/07/11/aware...sociation/

Thoughts?

This blog is the product of Dr. Orson Wedgwood (pseudonym Ben Williams). He makes some very interesting observations and conclusions. 

Overall the study was inconclusive, apparently mainly due to limited data, that is, a very limited number of cases meeting all the criteria and selectable for the study. This relates to all the practical limitations including financing and adverse medical circumstances and conditions. The great majority of the initial number of cases didn't survive. For the rest, the least of these adverse conditions and circumstances is the unlikelihood of any patients in cardiac arrest and having an NDE OBE are going to be interested in the slightest in noticing and remembering some random picture displayed on a screen near the ceiling.


Quote:. Due to the difficulties in recruiting only 28 patients were interviewed
. Of these 6 had NDEs (or recalled experiences of death (REDs))
. The study didn’t have any visual hits (unsurprising given only 6 had NDEs)
. The audio hit was inconclusive
. EEG data “consistent with consciousness” was recorded in patients up to 60 minutes after CA began (although the majority of this EEG activity would not in fact be consistent with lucid consciousness)

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..now for the big piece of news, probably the most important piece of data (for us here at least) that he presents, which is buried in the text underneath Figure 1 and the answer to the question I have been asking for 3.5 years and is the most relevant to this study – namely, did any of the patients who had NDEs/REDs have EEG data consistent with consciousness?
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This is the money line. This is the one that shoots down any materialist attempts to use this study to say that NDEs are proven to be a result of brain activity (and there will be lots of attempts)
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None of the subjects who reported conscious recollections, including the 6 who had NDEs, had any EEG data, let alone EEG data that showed markers of consciousness. Let me repeat, because of this it is entirely false to say there is an association of brain activity with NDEs.
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FROM THIS STUDY AND ALL PREVIOUS STUDIES THERE ARE NO REPORTED NDEs THAT HAVE ANY EEG DATA, LET ALONE DATA SHOWING BRAIN ACTIVITY, ASSOCIATED WITH THESE REPORTS.
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This last means that (in addition to shooting down materialist debunking attempts) we are back to square one. Despite the valiant efforts of Parnia and his team, we are no closer to having scientific evidence supporting any understanding of the cause of NDEs or the nature of consciousness.
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(2023-07-18, 02:06 AM)RViewer88 Wrote: I hope this hasn't already been covered somewhere. I searched for AWARE and AWARE-II on here but got back so many results it wasn't very helpful in narrowing things down. Nothing jumped out as having mentioned that the study has been finally published. I don't have the paper but there's a discussion of it here: https://awareofaware.co/2023/07/11/aware...sociation/

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Just to add, the full paper is now available online at:

https://www.resuscitationjournal.com/art...2/fulltext

or to download as a PDF
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