A message to Durward

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@Warddurward,

I'm starting a new thread rather than responding to any of your existing posts so as not to derail those conversations.

It seems that after leaving us over three years ago, having decided that you weren't at home and comfortable, and that our slant is very strange, and then asking for your account to be deleted, a request which was honoured, you've now chosen to rejoin us.

That's fine. You had been welcome to stay in the first place, at least from my perspective. You are welcome, too, to rejoin us, despite the personal unpleasantness in the email exchange between us on your departure.

Speaking personally as a forum member though, I would have appreciated it if, on your return, you had acknowledged the circumstances of your departure, and let us know what had changed and why. I would have found that courteous and respectful to the community as well as personally.

Do you now feel that you will be at home and comfortable, and that our slant is, after all, tolerable? If not, then what do you think can be done to avoid a repeat of your last experience here? That's a serious question - please feel free to answer via a private conversation if you choose to answer at all. A public answer is fine too though. If you do choose to answer privately, please feel free to include the other active remaining founders, @Typoz and @Ninshub.
(Today, 03:31 AM)Laird Wrote: @Warddurward,
I'm starting a new thread rather than responding to any of your existing posts so as not to derail those conversations.
It seems that after leaving us over three years ago, having decided that you weren't at home and comfortable, and that our slant is very strange, and then asking for your account to be deleted, a request which was honoured, you've now chosen to rejoin us.
That's fine. You had been welcome to stay in the first place, at least from my perspective. You are welcome, too, to rejoin us, despite the personal unpleasantness in the email exchange between us on your departure.
Speaking personally as a forum member though, I would have appreciated it if, on your return, you had acknowledged the circumstances of your departure, and let us know what had changed and why. I would have found that courteous and respectful to the community as well as personally.
Do you now feel that you will be at home and comfortable, and that our slant is, after all, tolerable? If not, then what do you think can be done to avoid a repeat of your last experience here? That's a serious question - please feel free to answer via a private conversation if you choose to answer at all. A public answer is fine too though. If you do choose to answer privately, please feel free to include the other active remaining founders, @Typoz and @Ninshub.

Hello Laird, @Typoz, and @Ninshub,

I see that some people have been banned, others have left. It is an always changing landscape.

In one of my first topics, someone already tried to correct and steer my opinion, which you know is not right, and yet the people who stay here still do this like some cult.

You know I don't bow down to any type of authority, and I speak my mind. I challenge those who think they can control others and who try to dictate how others should think and act. This is why you and I don't see eye-to-eye, and never will. We can try to be civil, but that only works if you stop bullying and intimidating.

Your slant, just from what you just wrote, is still uncomfortable to me, and I'm sure it is to many others who have bailed because of it.
My main reason is curiosity. Seeing if anything has changed. Seeing if there is new information that aids my understanding and research. Sharing things I find interesting that have to do with the SUBJECT MATTER, and not your personal agendas. How you feel about it is totally irrelevant to me.
I'm certainly not here to share pleasantries with you or your founding members, in particular IF you are still trying to manipulate everything.
I certainly don't need to be your friend, unless you think that is somehow a requirement to participate.
But in addition, to see if normal civil conversation is now being allowed, or if you are still brow beating and intimidating people.
Your "I would have found that courteous and respectful" statement is another perfect example of you trying to steer people and very triggering.
Don't tell me how to act, or how to think, or try to instruct or parent me using your personal beliefs of what is or isn't courteous and respectful when that is the farthest thing from your style of moderation ever. You don't get to tell me what I should or shouldn't do. We have been over this disrespectful nonsense of yours before. What are you? Butt hurt and 12?
The tone of your message still comes across as haughty and steering, as always, arrogant and expecting others to dance to your expectations. When, none of my personal business is any of your business, and it should not affect anyone's ability to participate in discussions on a forum. Yet suddenly, it does matter to you and you want to control things.
Your personal issues should, in my opinion, remain silent unless your goal is to destroy your forum and make it uncomfortable for everyone.
If you are still attacking, bullying, and abusing on here, I will soon be gone.

Your post is a perfect example of what drove me away to begin with, and I see your issues have not changed. So if you have not changed, why should I?

It is a shame, as this forum idea is a good one. The hovering, controlling, steering, and bashing is not.

What was the purpose of calling me out unless you want to piss me off and make me leave again? Just let it go, or not. It would have been courteous and respectful if you just welcomed me back and let it be. But no, you have to pick some kind of courteous and respect fight.

I would suggest you go back and read what you wrote, and give it some thought.
Reading the recent messages where you used bans to impose your own political beliefs, after inviting them to discuss topics, sounded like a trap, and your knee-jerk response was again overbearing and controlling. But it is "your" forum and it likely feeds some personal needs.

You should listen to those who opposed your views and your bans, in my opinion, if opinions are still allowed, which they likely aren't.

So, perhaps try less to be a forum dictator, and act more like an impartial moderator?

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