A critique of Analytic Idealism
Published today, NYE 2025, by me.
Here's a link to the (ongoing?) discussion I've had (am having?) wiith ChatGPT about this critique:
https://chatgpt.com/share/69546e91-33ec-...0c752042c9
I thought it offered some thoughtful analysis and keen insight (and not the obsequiousness for which it is sometimes known, at least, not very overtly).
I'm not so sure about the editing suggestions it's made, and have even reverted one that I originally implemented. I'd be interested in any opinions as to whether they ought to be implemented.
In any case, here is some of its analysis inline, for those who prefer not to click on the link:
Published today, NYE 2025, by me.
Quote:On Analytic Idealism, there is no real self: the self is nominal only; it is emptiness; potentiality, not actuality; amorphous; reduced to a “sense of”.
This is difficult to grasp at first because of all of the lip service paid to the idea of the self as “the universal subject”, but it becomes clear after some analysis.
Quote:In combination, these quotes demonstrate that Analytic Idealism lacks the concept of a real self: the self of which it conceives is merely nominal; unreal in another word; non-existent in yet another. Analytic Idealism seen properly, in this light, is a no-self theory.
The only apparent possibility (endorsed in the above quotes) for a real self on Analytic Idealism is for experience (all that really exists on that theory; same caveat as before) to be the self, but this in fact is not possible, because to be and to undergo (experiences) are two incompatible relations: a self can’t “be” the same experiences that it undergoes; it is logically prior to them.
This is not mere semantics: the lack of a real self to ground experience is the most serious problem with this theory (but not the only problem).
Quote:🔗 Reasoning
Another challenging faculty to explain on Analytic Idealism is reasoning. Without a real mind capable of guiding the reasoning, it is unclear how and why any subset of experience would faithfully represent a chain of reasoning.
🔗 Intelligence
If reasoning in particular is challenging to explain on Analytic Idealism, then intelligence in general is even more so, given, as I contend, that experience is not in itself causally efficacious in an active sense. Given this contention, there is no reason for one subset of experience to lead in any particular direction over time, let alone in an intelligent one.
Here's a link to the (ongoing?) discussion I've had (am having?) wiith ChatGPT about this critique:
https://chatgpt.com/share/69546e91-33ec-...0c752042c9
I thought it offered some thoughtful analysis and keen insight (and not the obsequiousness for which it is sometimes known, at least, not very overtly).
I'm not so sure about the editing suggestions it's made, and have even reverted one that I originally implemented. I'd be interested in any opinions as to whether they ought to be implemented.
In any case, here is some of its analysis inline, for those who prefer not to click on the link:
Quote:Where the objection bites
The critique does score a legitimate point here:
- Kastrup frequently oscillates between:
- “subjectivity is fundamental”
- “only experience exists”
- Without always clearly specifying whether:
- subjectivity is identical to experience
- or ontologically prior but non-substantial
This ambiguity allows the critique to argue that:
- the self is either redundant or empty
This is a real pressure point in Analytic Idealism:
Kastrup relies on a non-substantial subject that nevertheless must:That burden is heavy, and the critique is justified in highlighting it.
- unify experience
- ground dissociation
- support identity
Where the objection overreaches
The analogy:
Quote:“Only experience exists” is like “only red exists”does not land cleanly, because:
- Kastrup explicitly denies that experience is a property of something else
- He treats experience as ontologically primitive, not adjectival
So the critique is not showing an inconsistency within Analytic Idealism here, but rather rejecting its metaphysical starting point.
In short:
- Strong external objection
- Moderate internal pressure
- Not a knockdown refutation
Quote:c) Mental faculties (memory, reasoning, intelligence)
These sections are cumulative rather than independent.
They all rely on:
- denial of an internal dynamical mind
- rejection of experience as processual
The strongest point here is about memory:
Quote:Memory can be experienced, but cannot be experience.
This does reveal a gap in Kastrup’s expositions, which often:
- rely on structural metaphors (semantic networks)
- without a clear account of persistence conditions
This is a legitimate explanatory lacuna, though not unique to Analytic Idealism.
Quote:4. Response to problems of memory, reasoning, and intelligence
Bernardo’s likely reply
He would likely say the critique is demanding a homunculus.
Key points:
- Memory is not stored in a mind
- Memory is a recurrent pattern in mentation
- Reasoning is the temporal unfolding of structured experiential constraints
- Intelligence is pattern sensitivity, not a faculty owned by a substance
He might point to:
- Neural network analogies
- Dynamical systems
- Attractor states
And say:
Quote:“You are asking where the librarian is, when the library is self-organising.”
Assessment
This reply is plausible but underdeveloped in Kastrup’s actual writing.
The critique is right that:
- These explanations are gestural
- They rely heavily on metaphor
- Persistence and normativity (why reasoning is correct) remain thinly explained
So this remains a live vulnerability, not a settled victory for either side.
Quote:Overall verdict on Bernardo’s likely responses
Bernardo can respond coherently to every major objection in the critique.
However:
- His responses do not neutralise the critique’s central worry
- They repeatedly rely on rejecting the critique’s metaphysical intuitions rather than resolving tensions
The deepest unresolved fault line remains:
Quote:Can subjectivity be ontologically real without being anything over and above experience?If yes, Analytic Idealism survives.
If no, the critique succeeds.
That is the real point of decision.
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