(2019-01-31, 07:23 PM)Hurmanetar Wrote: [ -> ]I prepared this fact sheet on Measles and the Measles vaccine. Any thoughts? Did I get anything wrong?
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I'm genuinely intrigued though still not convinced. Could you show a handful of your information sources to give us an idea and something to research for ourselves.
(2019-01-31, 09:23 PM)Brian Wrote: [ -> ]I'm genuinely intrigued though still not convinced. Could you show a handful of your information sources to give us an idea and something to research for ourselves.
Google no longer provides links to anti-vax material so I only used mainstream sources: CDC website, Wikipedia, VAERS website, and a few studies. If I have time later I’ll come back with specific links but this stuff isn’t hard to verify.
A vomiting unicorn? Not sure I've seen one of those before.
(2019-02-01, 09:15 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]I’m still refusing to have the flu shot... one of the studies I looked at showed just how effective it was, particularly amongst younger people. Really amazing effect. But there was summat weird happening with the results from much older people, as more of those having the flu shot were getting ill, than those who hadn’t had the shot. There seems to be something going on that is not well understood.
Yep, and they’re not even willing to hear any questioning voices like yours. It’s full science ahead!
(2019-02-01, 09:15 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]I’m still refusing to have the flu shot... one of the studies I looked at showed just how effective it was, particularly amongst younger people. Really amazing effect. But there was summat weird happening with the results from much older people, as more of those having the flu shot were getting ill, than those who hadn’t had the shot. There seems to be something going on that is not well understood.
My goodness - my knowledge is unbelievably far behind! I was thinking of having my first flu shot this year but now I need to research it. I knew nothing of this - thanks Max!
(2019-02-01, 11:38 AM)fls Wrote: [ -> ]Who are "they"?
Linda
Interesting question Linda.
I think I meant the scientific establishment ie Doctors, Pharmacists, nurses, anyone whose interests may be threatened by people like Max and me, people that don’t just blindly accept what they say as ‘fact’. Thinking about it, I also mean those on Social media who have spent little or no time researching it, but are only too willing to call us anti-vaxxers and immediately place us in a ‘smelly box’, they are backed up by scientists, so they must be right. Right?
(2019-02-01, 12:17 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting question Linda.
I think I meant the scientific establishment ie Doctors, Pharmacists, nurses, anyone whose interests may be threatened by people like Max and me, people that don’t just blindly accept what they say as ‘fact’. Thinking about it, I also mean those on Social media who have spent little or no time researching it, but are only too willing to call us anti-vaxxers and immediately place us in a ‘smelly box’, they are backed up by scientists, so they must be right. Right?
Ah, I see. Doctors, pharmacists and nurses will be looking towards discredited sources of guidelines, such as:
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/s...-naci.html
This is opposed to the "go at it on your own" approach. I'm curious to see whether anyone is able to identify some of the glaring errors Hurmaneter made in his poster, as a demonstration of the validity of this approach.
Linda
Close friends of ours, neighbours while living in Brunei, have experienced this bias first hand. They have two children, the eldest being a boy with autism. He, like so many others, started displaying distressing behaviour soon after receiving the mmr jab.
The average Doctor or Pharmacist will not even have pondered the possibility that the very many such anecdotes similar to that above could possibly warrant serious consideration, or have validity. I think you are the same Linda. Ask yourself if my friends had come to you with very serious concerns about what was happening to their child, would you have kept an open mind?
(2019-02-01, 01:21 PM)fls Wrote: [ -> ] I'm curious to see whether anyone is able to identify some of the glaring errors Hurmaneter made in his poster,
If you are just assuming errors and leaving others to do the work then it should be no surprise if people hold you in contempt. However, I will give you the benefit of the doubt because I would really like to know one way or the other what the truth is and if you know something that we should know. Please tell us what you think you know or else stop being cryptic!