Why Corroborated NDEs Can’t Just Be Explained Away

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(2024-03-03, 06:08 PM)Brian Wrote: @nbtruthman quoting Amazon


Never trust a sales pitch!

Maybe you just posted that as a joke. However, if you simply find ways to close down information you do not like, you will never discover the truth. I mean, the man has spent time writing his book, so he obviously hopes to sell some copies.

Perhaps we should simply make books on evidence for the paranormal illegal - that would settle the matter.

David
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(2024-04-02, 10:20 AM)David001 Wrote: Maybe you just posted that as a joke. However, if you simply find ways to close down information you do not like, you will never discover the truth. I mean, the man has spent time writing his book, so he obviously hopes to sell some copies.

Perhaps we should simply make books on evidence for the paranormal illegal - that would settle the matter.

David

Ignorance of, for example, source criticism is a task for the Ministry of Education and not for the courts.
(2024-04-02, 06:46 PM)sbu Wrote: Ignorance of, for example, source criticism is a task for the Ministry of Education and not for the courts.


Please expand on this implied criticism of The Self Does Not Die book in some sort of detail.
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(2024-04-02, 10:55 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: Please expand on this implied criticism of The Self Does Not Die book in some sort of detail.

David made a generalized comment about books on paranormal evidence, and I responded with a similarly generalized comment. Reading skeptical comments about "The Self Does Not Die" online has convinced me that I would find the book disappointing regarding objective evidence, such as the examination of medical records. Since near-death experiences (NDEs) are a very sensitive topic for this forum, I generally avoid engaging in any debunking of this subject.
(2024-04-03, 08:56 AM)sbu Wrote: David made a generalized comment about books on paranormal evidence, and I responded with a similarly generalized comment. Reading skeptical comments about "The Self Does Not Die" online has convinced me that I would find the book disappointing regarding objective evidence, such as the examination of medical records. Since near-death experiences (NDEs) are a very sensitive topic for this forum, I generally avoid engaging in any debunking of this subject.

How does the examination of medical records relate to investigative determinations of the veridicality of details in the accounts of NDErs of their observations and experiences during their reported OBEs, and the occasional correlating reports from distantly located witnesses?
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(2024-04-03, 04:32 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: How does the examination of medical records relate to investigative determinations of the veridicality of details in the accounts of NDErs of their observations and experiences during their reported OBEs, and the occasional correlating reports from distantly located witnesses?

Without a mutual agreement of what differentiates strong evidence from weak evidence regarding a claim, I prefer not to engage in this discussion. I've debated with flat earthers in the past (not implying that you are one) and noticed they are deeply convinced of the solidity of their arguments. We already exchanged viewpoints in the "nuts and bolts aliens discussion" a few times without finding common ground. NDEs may or may not be with you believe them to be. I'm personally very much on the fence with this one. Let's agree to leave the conversation at this point.
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