Unexplained skin reactions during hypnosis or abreaction

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(2017-10-09, 08:05 PM)Mediochre Wrote: Yeah, because Freddy Kruger was a ghost who could physically harm and kill people through their dreams. Which was very similar to what was happening to me, and a lesser extent Dreamsoap, at the time. So I called it the kruger effect. Until now I'd never found any other definitive reports of it.

Yes. I remember.
(2017-10-09, 08:05 PM)Mediochre Wrote: Yeah, because Freddy Kruger was a ghost who could physically harm and kill people through their dreams. Which was very similar to what was happening to me, and a lesser extent Dreamsoap, at the time. So I called it the kruger effect. Until now I'd never found any other definitive reports of it.
I guess that is helpful for you.

But when I read these forums, I consider it to be more suitably named the Mediochre effect, since that is the context where I first heard of it.
(2017-10-10, 06:54 AM)Typoz Wrote: I guess that is helpful for you.

But when I read these forums, I consider it to be more suitably named the Mediochre effect, since that is the context where I first heard of it.

Well I suppose that makes sense and if you end up calling it the Mediochre effect it's not like I'm going to stop you. It'd feel kinda weird if it were named after me though.
"The cure for bad information is more information."
Previously, I was thinking of mentioning that this was actually rather similar to the (alleged) phenomenon of stigmata (which was discussed by Donald West immediately before these phenomena). After all, intense contemplation of the wounds of Christ presumably isn't very much different from someone reliving physical injuries they've suffered. 

But the skin reactions described in the Lancet articles don't include bleeding. However, I see in another thread that Mediochre says that as a child he experienced scratches that bled, at a time when he was dreaming of being attacked by creatures:
http://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-488.html
Guy Lion Playfair's If This Be Magic. Documents a number of simular phenomenon.
(2017-10-13, 01:23 AM)Oleo Wrote: Guy Lion Playfair's  If This Be Magic. Documents a number of simular phenomenon.

Thanks very much - that looks interesting. I see there's a sample chapter on the White Crow Books website. The first case discussed there is the "crocodile skin" one mentioned by West after the passage I quoted:
http://whitecrowbooks.com/ebooks/page/if...f_hypnosis
I have copies of those Lancet papers now, but the British Library being what it is they're on paper, so I'll have to scan them before I can post them.

Arthur Hadfield, the author of one of those papers, actually has his own Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._A._Hadfield

There's an interesting reference to Hadfield's activities in a book by Ben Shephard, entitled "Headhunters" (2014), which is a kind of collective biography of William McDougall (J. B. Rhine's mentor) and three other psychologists. After the First World War, McDougall was working with Thomas Saxby Good, the superintendent of the Littlemore Hospital near Oxford.They were treating uncured shell shock patients, using hypnotherapy and other techniques. 

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(2017-10-21, 03:55 PM)Chris Wrote: I have copies of those Lancet papers now, but the British Library being what it is they're on paper, so I'll have to scan them before I can post them.

Arthur Hadfield, the author of one of those papers, actually has his own Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._A._Hadfield

There's an interesting reference to Hadfield's activities in a book by Ben Shephard, entitled "Headhunters" (2014), which is a kind of collective biography of William McDougall (J. B. Rhine's mentor) and three other psychologists. After the First World War, McDougall was working with Thomas Saxby Good, the superintendent of the Littlemore Hospital near Oxford.They were treating uncured shell shock patients, using hypnotherapy and other techniques. 

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That was an interesting read.

That type of topic is of close interest to me because dealing with trauma from past-life issues has been one of the primary activities in my early adult life. I was unwilling to trust any medical professional to handle such matters so had to find ways to go through processes for myself, following essentially trial and error and instinct until eventually something worked. Not a fun time, but one which did allow me to move on.

Edit:
Moments after posting the above, I came across a post on another forum:
Quote:The main motivation for me to write this book has been my own need to heal from present traumas early in this lifetime, that drew by association, my own past life memories.

The first past life memory I had, was a death moment.

Not a fun memory, and more than slightly traumatic in and of itself.
The phrase "Not a fun memory" used in an almost identical context struck me as a synchronicity.
The original post is here and refers to a book, The Value of Past Life Memory by Robert W Mayhall.
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Here are the papers from the Lancet. Sorry the images are such a dog's breakfast, but please blame the British Library's moronic copying restrictions, not me.

Hadfield, J. A. "The Influence of Hypnotic Suggestion on Inflammatory Conditions." The Lancet 190(4914):678-679 (1917).

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Moody, R. L. "Bodily Changes During Abreaction." The Lancet 248(6435):934–935 (1946)

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