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Impersonating users deleted/perm-banned, including most notably "Leuders"
#1
Turns out our newly resident skeptic, Leuders, was merely an impersonator of the real Leuders: https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?tit...id=1869794

As well as perm-banning that account, we have deleted several other accounts created by the same individual who created the Leuders account:
  • Eveshi
  • Victor Zammit
  • Michael Prescott
  • Michael E. Tymn
  • Laird pseudoscience promoter
  • Andrew B. Chun

The previously deleted accounts, Mac, JonDonnis, badpsychics.com (the last of which was never activated, and which we hadn't mentioned deleting until now) were also under the control of this same individual.

So, who is this individual? We think best evidence points to the individual(s) described by Rome Viharo on his page, Oliver Smith’s Dark Entanglement. [For an update on this, see post #82]

I showed Rome the postings to this forum by the Leuders impersonator and his reaction was: yes, that indeed is Oliver Smith, who has been known to impersonate Leuders before - and this was before getting confirmation from the real Leuders.

We have a choice now: do we leave this impersonating account's posts intact on the basis that deleting them would disrupt too many conversations (perhaps after changing its username to indicate that it is an impersonating account and editing each post to the same effect) or do we delete its posts on the basis that we don't want this disturbed individual's posts polluting our otherwise happy forum?
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#2
Leave them.
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#3
Leave the Leuders ones.
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(09-11-2017, 11:09 PM)chuck Wrote: Leave them.

Yes, please leave them (suitably labelled to avoid confusion). 

Any chance of getting the real Leuders to join in?
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(09-12-2017, 12:32 AM)Chris Wrote: Any chance of getting the real Leuders to join in?

I'm not sure... we're not exactly on good terms - some years back I spent some time there arguing unsuccessfully that they ought to take down their hit-piece on Rome, and he's an active editor of that article. Anyhow, he knows about our forum now.
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#6
Yeah, his posts have value. We should leave them
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#7
(09-12-2017, 01:07 AM)Atheist Wrote: (...)

So this would be Oliver/Fake Leuders then.

I had actually noticed this new user a few minutes ago and reported it for probably being Fake Leuders based on a few things, but this post style is obviously the same as Fake Leuders.
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#8
This is getting wonderfully convoluted.
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#9
As has been said before, it is not allowed to cast aspersions on current forum members. You may send private reports, but not public posts. New members joining in order to do this will be banned.
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(09-11-2017, 11:03 PM)Laird Wrote: As well as perm-banning that account, we have deleted several other accounts created by the same individual who created the Leuders account:
  • Eveshi
  • Victor Zammit
  • Michael Prescott
  • Michael E. Tymn
  • Laird pseudoscience promoter
  • Andrew B. Chun

The previously deleted accounts, Mac, JonDonnis, badpsychics.com (the last of which was never activated, and which we hadn't mentioned deleting until now) were also under the control of this same individual.
"Atheist" can now be added to the list.
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