Wave Particle Duality, the Observer and Retrocausality

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(2020-11-29, 11:05 PM)Smaw Wrote: I don't see why you guys have the assumption that there's the grand conspiracy here or anything. I don't even personally see the negativity of Steve's position, not wanting to change your mind and sticking with the popular majority until enough evidence comes up it forces you too is entirely fair. 

It's only when they step out and call parapsychological evidence wrong that it becomes an issue.

What grand conspiracy?

If you mean [the accusation that] Steve didn't read the paper in the OP and now is trying to twist things to make it seem like the PBS video still applies...that seems pretty obvious from his ignorance of the fact the paper argues against humans collapsing the wave function.
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(2020-11-29, 01:58 PM)Steve001 Wrote: You misunderstand what I am saying. Frankly, I have no idea what objective reality comprises. It might be everything folks here hope it to be, or some of it or none of it. I am saying don't believed everything you think. In the words of Feynman "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."

(2020-11-29, 12:22 PM)Steve001 Wrote: Are you certain you understand the correct circumstance for using the Dunning- Kruger effect?  I can assure you I have not once over estimated my abilities. However, your reply suggests you might. 
Did it ever ask yourself why I engage?  I'll tell you why. I come here to see if the things you are certain are true actually are. So far, in 40 plus years I've not seen anything that would seriously cause me to change my perspective. You all may be right but the evidence I required is much more stringent.

Steve, you delegate the explaining of things to videos of “experts”. Ergo, you overestimate your capacity to a) discern what the data is actually telling you and b) draw your own conclusions from the exercise. You do not understand physics, you lack the formation to back your claims up, videos are hardly a silver bullet and yet you feel confident enough to lock horns with random people like that. The principle was used in the adequate context.

Furthermore, about those videos... I wouldn’t claim to be certain of anything regarding QM, it’s foolish and pretentious to parade yourself as the one to unravel what a collective of brilliant minds hasn’t for the last century. We are, scratching the surface there. This early, the only thing that can be done is to jump in and enjoy the ride.

As for me... I am uncertain of many things. For example, I am uncertain that you are in your 40s.
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(2020-11-29, 08:11 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: This is reminding of the time he thought "field effects" were something to do with "immaterialism" rather than physics.

Why I am half-convinced he's a proponent but trolling as a physicalist to show "skepticism" is really dogmatic religious pseudo-skepticism.

Well, we have seen those in the past.
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