Vaccines

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Vaccines and the CDC were subjects of conversations for a while at Skeptiko . . . so I thought I'd mention for those interested with Amazon Prime that Vaxxed (a documentary on the subject) is available now for free.  (Maybe it's been for some time and I just didn't know).  I found it a great watch.    

*I post this here instead of under conspiracy, because I believe it's actually a pretty straight forward topic, no matter how muddied it may've become by those with the money to do so.
Is there something "great" about being misinformed? (serious question - curious about these kinds of decisions)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/ap...phe-review

Linda
(2017-12-14, 12:00 PM)fls Wrote: Is there something "great" about being misinformed? (serious question - curious about these kinds of decisions)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/ap...phe-review

Linda

This response would get you on my 'ignore' list if I cared 'Linda'. Do you not see how arrogant it appears? Unless I'm wrong, it just seems to me like you are putting Reece's post in a box 'labelled' "more insanity, we should really look at how this occurs".
Oh my God, I hate all this.   Surprise
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(2017-12-14, 12:15 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: This response would get you on my 'ignore' list if I cared 'Linda'. Do you not see how arrogant it appears? Unless I'm wrong, it just seems to me like you are putting Reece's post in a box 'labelled' "more insanity, we should really look at how this occurs".

The film was pulled from the Tribecca Film Festival because it was heavily criticized, in terms of its false and misleading information, by people with knowledge and experience in the field of vaccines. At the very least, that should give pause to someone who has an interest in being well-informed, rather than misinformed. 

Linda
(2017-12-14, 12:43 PM)fls Wrote: The film was pulled from the Tribecca Film Festival because it was heavily criticized, in terms of its false and misleading information, by people with knowledge and experience in the field of vaccines. At the very least, that should give pause to someone who has an interest in being well-informed, rather than misinformed. 

Linda

Because you have a film criticised and pulled from a Festival doesn't mean shit to me. The establishment/corporations will go to great lengths to hush up what they don't want people to see. If I truly believed they had our best interests at heart it might be different, but these days who can really be trusted?
Oh my God, I hate all this.   Surprise
Thought I'd mention that if the hockey stick graph continues increasing at the rate it has been, 1 in 2 kids will be born with(? (develop?)) autism by 2032.  Fun fact.
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(2017-12-14, 12:00 PM)fls Wrote: Is there something "great" about being misinformed? (serious question - curious about these kinds of decisions)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/ap...phe-review

Linda

Oh, you've seen it?
(2017-12-14, 12:00 PM)fls Wrote: Is there something "great" about being misinformed? (serious question - curious about these kinds of decisions)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/ap...phe-review

Linda

The causes of science denial:

https://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde...ce-denial/
(2017-12-14, 12:00 PM)fls Wrote: Is there something "great" about being misinformed? (serious question - curious about these kinds of decisions)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/ap...phe-review

Linda

Well you're quoting The Guardian of all places, if you don't know why that on it's own is enough reason to disbelieve the information then you are unaware of what the repeated lies, misrepresentation and other no-goodery that paper has been caught red handed in. Which means it's pretty safe to say you are uninformed of the subject at hand.

A cursory search on a platform other than Google, given it's well known and admitted censorship, for "Doctors Against Vaccines" (I recommend DuckDuckGo or Startpage) would likely enlighten you considering they are the people who have done the research and in some cases had their entire careers ruined for getting results that go against the officially state sanctioned narrative.

However I will leave this link as a starter: http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/...e-dangers/

I mean just look at what happened to Dr. Seralini for daring to publish research showing that rats start getting cancer after 4 months if they eat GMO corn. When I was still in university we got told by our psychology professors that if the the goverment doesn't like the results of their study the government just won't publish it. People were flabbergasted, asking "But isn't that unethical!?" to which the teacher would reply "Yes." Certainly doesn't stop them.

People who actually think the government cares about them and has their best interests at heart are, quite frankly, wilfully retarded pieces of shit. The sheer amount of documented cases of government, corporate and media collusion to get there way is simply undeniable. Power is all that matters, you either have something people want, are capable of stopping them from getting what they want, or are irrelevant. All the rest is weakling moralistic jibber jabber platitudes about love and peace that amounts to nothing in the real world.

Here's a crash course on how reality works:

"The cure for bad information is more information."
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(2017-12-14, 12:15 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: This response would get you on my 'ignore' list if I cared 'Linda'. Do you not see how arrogant it appears? Unless I'm wrong, it just seems to me like you are putting Reece's post in a box 'labelled' "more insanity, we should really look at how this occurs".

It's not worth it to ignore people you disagree with. It only puts everyone into their own increasingly isolated echo chambers and nothing gets done. If you have information or arguments that disproves or challenges the claims of another it's much more productive to present it and see how the other side reacts.
"The cure for bad information is more information."
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