Roundo: our new mobile-friendly theme, proposed to be set as default

I was wondering what could be done to make the quote's clearer... I find it difficult to distinguish post/quote (particularly a problem on Sci's posts as he likes large quotes), I like them not having any different font (italic/size), but I do think they need perhaps a feint background colour change to distinguish them.

I notice we've lost signatures too?

I find the linear blend makes the psi less distinct... so that it gets lost. I toyed with it, because this linear colour blend occurs elsewhere, but dismissed it myself. I wanted to separate psi from ence using colour (3d bevel, shadow and italic), but using the same font. But I find splitting psi into a multiple colour blend tends to camouflage it and make it less distinct IMO?

I don't much like the pink myself, but that's on the site. The blue just doesn't work as well on the black, and looks weak on the white IMO.

Well, probably to an extent the overall low-contrast is inherent in the theme. Perhaps some other changes such as adjusting the spacing between letters or increasing the intensity of the drop-shadow might be ways to work within this colour-scheme?

I do find the colour-blend aesthetically appealing, regardless of its visibility.

But I'd really like to hear some other people's opinions, these are just ideas I toyed with.

[Laird]

A brief comment, the new dark style of the Roundo theme has some text which is virtually invisible against the background. That's the same sort of issue with low-contrast as occurred with the 'Light' theme.

I responded:

Yep, I've noticed that too, in particular, the dropdown box text (prior to dropping them down), and date-times. I'll try to resolve those at some point. In the meantime, please let me know of any other text that you notice which is problematic in this way.

Now resolved - at least, I hope so. Let me know if I've missed anything or if the contrast is still too low.

One other issue I wanted to mention: the 'Active Threads' screen.

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I found that display quite incomprehensible, a lot of scraps of information scattered over the display with no sense of what any of it meant.

Later in the day I found I could get the same effect on windows by changing the width of the window.

I responded, after explaining why I thought that was occurring:

I am open to ideas as to how to do it better.

I came up with an idea myself: like Roundo does generally for thread listings which in the default theme are multi-column tables, shift the content of the multiple columns into a single column with relatively natural language separating the data items, rather than the borders between columns separating them. This means that no special styling is required for responsive (mobile-friendly) mode - each single-cell row of data just increases in height to make up for the decreased width.

There were only two places where I had to use a different approach (stipulation of conversation and conversation group rights, and stipulation of the active period + sorting options for active threads), where data input was required, and there I simply ensured that in responsive mode a label for each data input appears above/beside the input itself.

Let me know what you think. There is always the possibility to finesse based on feedback...

David: it seemed to think I was already in MyBB format

Laird: I think I've found the culprit for this - and it's a MyBB core error.

Confirmed and fixed - at least for now. I haven't submitted an issue+PR to the MyBB GitHub repository, so it remains unfixed upstream, with the potential for my local fix to be overwritten on the next upgrade, with me forgetting to reimplement it.

It looks like the server is doing a lot of processing (I'm guessing to calculate the 'new' blue post location on threads for my account).

That shouldn't take a lot of processing - it's a pretty quick part of the DB query which uses an index, as best I recall.

Anyway, it might give you a clue... I don't know how new blue functions...

It functions just the same as green arrow except for different styling, so, unfortunately, I still don't have a clue.

I've produced a new transparent png logo which is a bit bolder... [...]  See what you think?

I was hoping you'd come up with something here. Much appreciated.

Have incorporated your logos into the staging/testing version of the theme.

I note Typoz's opinion and suggestion, and won't offer my own opinion at this point, so as not to bias anybody who responds to Typoz's invitation for more opinions.

We'll also at some point need square versions of whichever logos we go with, for responsive mode at low screen widths. Right now, the theme is just using the original square logo (the same as the image shown in browser tabs, and on the wiki).

I was wondering what could be done to make the quote's clearer... I find it difficult to distinguish post/quote (particularly a problem on Sci's posts as he likes large quotes), I like them not having any different font (italic/size), but I do think they need perhaps a feint background colour change to distinguish them.

I've changed the background colour from #1f2025 to #1d1c20. Better?

I notice we've lost signatures too?

Not as far as I'm aware. I'm still seeing them.

[Ninshub]

I do find the colour-blend aesthetically appealing, regardless of its visibility.

My only (very small) issue is: if the blue could match more the blue that is in the psiencequest logo at the top. That blue is kind of like indigo blue, whereas the blue in the Roundo theme tends more to purple-ish blue. I don't know if that's technically possible to address.

[Ninshub]

I haven't followed this discussion closely but also: I don't see "Today's posts" with the new theme, just "Unread posts".

[Laird]

I don't see "Today's posts" with the new theme, just "Unread posts".

It's under the "Posts" drop menu just to the left of "Unread posts", for space-saving.

My only (very small) issue is: if the blue could match more the blue that is in the psiencequest logo at the top. That blue is kind of like indigo blue, whereas the blue in the Roundo theme tends more to purple-ish blue. I don't know if that's technically possible to address.

I can use the old logo blue for the new logo design, and I agree that blue is nicer. But the clash between the old logo blue, and the reddish blue used on the site is unattractive (to me) :-) If that doesn't bother anyone but me, I'm fine... although I'd rather use the pink, than the old blue... I think that pink is somewhere close to the lipstick colour my mum used to wear when I was a child.

Final logo's using the old blue... (mind you, that pink did look good in the dark theme!)

@Laird I'm not actually seeing any background colour difference on the body of quote boxes in the 'colour mode switching' light option. Where as there is quite a pronounced difference on the dark option (viewing from PC).

@Laird My bad, must have turned signatures off in settings yonks ago, and forgotten. (So I see em when I'm not logged in, which is the usual way I browse the site, when I'm not in the posting mood).