Is there any value in rationality?

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(2019-08-03, 07:47 PM)Mediochre Wrote: That's how I used to think, that's what defined what I;ll call my previous "rational core". Basically that your feelings don't matter, only the logic, because ironically emotions get in the way of getting what you really want.

OK, so, you're saying that your previous point of view minimised feelings in favour of logic. And I guess that in the context of my comments, you're suggesting that in reasoning your way out of an oppressive system, you reasoned that this first required your emotions to be suppressed - so as not to interfere with the logic of working out how to overthrow the system.

And you're also saying that now you've gone to an opposite extreme in which there is no need to reason about systems of oppression, but rather simply to will them to be the way that you feel they should be.

Am I understanding right so far?

It's an interesting idea. And I've had intuitions along these lines before. Here's something I'd be curious to get your thoughts on: if it is simply the case that reality is as each of us wills it (even if through an "API"), then - to the extent that we disagree as to what reality should be - reality is a power struggle of competing wills, right? And all of those competing wills are generating structures within which they expect the other wills to operate, in which case, the challenge is to overpower those structures by generating and enforcing one's own structure - at least so far as the competing structures are oppressive and not liberating, or fun challenges which we are interested in accepting.

In a sense, your very posting of these ideas is in the service of generating and enforcing your own willed "structure" (an anti-structure, really) in opposition to the oppressive structure of "either follow our rules or operate within them to overthrow them". You're saying: I don't even recognise the validity of these rules in the first place; I make my own rules. You're saying: these rules are oppressive; I choose liberation, not subservience - not even subservience to the idea of needing to work within a given structure to overthrow these rules; I simply overthrow them directly with my own will as empowered by my feelings and emotions.

Which is an empowering idea.
(2019-08-05, 12:34 AM)Laird Wrote: OK, so, you're saying that your previous point of view minimised feelings in favour of logic. And I guess that in the context of my comments, you're suggesting that in reasoning your way out of an oppressive system, you reasoned that this first required your emotions to be suppressed - so as not to interfere with the logic of working out how to overthrow the system.

And you're also saying that now you've gone to an opposite extreme in which there is no need to reason about systems of oppression, but rather simply to will them to be the way that you feel they should be.

Am I understanding right so far?


Pretty close, but rather than going to the opposite extreme its more about bringing both extremes together. Acknowledging that even my previous emotionless strategy was itself still based on the premise of just willing reality to be how it should be. All I was doing back then was denying that. But now it's more like starting in that other extreme where it's pure willpower but still using logic and reason afterwards. Though certainly the idea would be for it to happen via pure willpower. I like to think of it as the equivalent of a cutting torch. all the explosive power of acetylene focused down a narrow tube.

Quote:It's an interesting idea. And I've had intuitions along these lines before. Here's something I'd be curious to get your thoughts on: if it is simply the case that reality is as each of us wills it (even if through an "API"), then - to the extent that we disagree as to what reality should be - reality is a power struggle of competing wills, right? And all of those competing wills are generating structures within which they expect the other wills to operate, in which case, the challenge is to overpower those structures by generating and enforcing one's own structure - at least so far as the competing structures are oppressive and not liberating, or fun challenges which we are interested in accepting.


I don't think reality is composed of individual wills, I think it's probably it's own will-less thing and we're embedded in or interacting with it. it seems way too stable to be generated from the number of wills available. But I also think that it's ultimately based on nothing and so can be changed. Or at least, it should be changeable whether it is or not.

Quote:In a sense, your very posting of these ideas is in the service of generating and enforcing your own willed "structure" (an anti-structure, really) in opposition to the oppressive structure of "either follow our rules or operate within them to overthrow them". You're saying: I don't even recognise the validity of these rules in the first place; I make my own rules. You're saying: these rules are oppressive; I choose liberation, not subservience - not even subservience to the idea of needing to work within a given structure to overthrow these rules; I simply overthrow them directly with my own will as empowered by my feelings and emotions.

Which is an empowering idea.

Yeah that's not too far off. That's the goal, that's the mindset I'm tying to cultivate. All the evidence I've gathered says that that mindset should help since a lot of the really good poltergeists and shared dreams and whatnot I've done all have that in common as I talked about in my energy explanation linked above last I recall. They either rejected the authority of reality or they never considered it in the first place out of lack of awareness. I'm trying to get into that mindset as my default. If magic really is a product of your mentality as Gold said, which experimentation has continually supported, then having a mindset that says magic is real and reality is purely malleable and conforms to your will would certainly help.

I tried testing it out at the gym the other day because I realized that's the closet I'm going to get to the physical environment I'm used to using magic in. Didn't generate a reality frame but it certainly helped with weightlifting. I suspect it was all non-psi effects though, at least that time. If I keep practising it may change.
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I know this is probably cliche at this point because of how many times I've talked about it but all this stuff really started when I posted Loderunner. It's been the spark that's fueled every positive bit of progress I've made across my entire life these days. I guess I never realized just how important and event it was for me until recently. I've heard a few different stories of people being emotionally blocked from remote viewing or PK or OBE's for years and I'm no different. If I end up being successful with my magic it will certainly be because I decided to write that up and post it. I think it blocked my mentality and emotions so much that progress was impossible without putting it out there. I don't feel as strongly about the other two, Aheadjro was terrible but nothing compared to Loderunner and Unmarked (a better name than The Goddess Tournament) was actually very positive and something I'd happily do again. In hindsight I'm glad I even got the chance to do it. I still think it would be a good idea to write those up though. I think it'd help. Arguably the three most crazy things that have happened to me so far. But now I'm jut rambling.
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