Psience Quest

(2017-10-05, 07:49 PM)jkmac Wrote: [ -> ]I am quite familiar with Bashar, having watched several dozens of his Youtubes. So my comments are not due to my ignorance of his work. Rather they are more related to the general believability  of his story. 
 
So, yes:  it DOES come down to faith for me, because I am unconvinced that his prescription for making life work has been shown to be totally successful, nor am I sufficiently convinced of his overall story. The fact that you are, is interesting, but you'll have the excuse the fact that I am not confident enough to "buy-in".

Power in a paradox. You cannot be what you are not the vibration of...first. No excuse-ments necessary. No confidence is necessary. When, if, you are of the energy, if you find that you can automatically resonate with the messages, then and only then will the "buy-in" occur.

(2017-10-05, 10:36 PM)Pssst Wrote: [ -> ]First, a 'prediction' is a word used by ET so to be understood in our time-linear world. It functionally is a misnomer as there is no future to predict. What a 'prediction' is? A sensing of the energy of the collective at any given moment. The communicating ET community does not offer predictions to prove their extraterrestrial-ness. They provide them as guidelines to what we are presently manifesting and, if we continue on a particular, collective path, then the momentum will drive us toward those predictions. If not, so what? Learning.

Collective consciousness is subject to change by the very definition of consciousness. It is the 5th Law.

You will be very hard pressed to find Bashar being overwhelmingly wrong when he places a significant % of probability on a prediction. See the original post.

Here is a statement of fact. The YahYel will be showing their craft ala Phoenix Lights by no later than 2018 as a way to read our collective state of being and whether or not we are ready for first, hard open contact. 100%, book it.

OK. I'll be watching.

There are a number of cases of technology-based time travel, one of the more interesting is the Andrew Basiago story. Although he mentions such celebrities as Obama and Regina Dugan - Head of DARPA - as America’s time travel pioneers. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, he was a child participant in the secret US time-space program, Project Pegasus.

He was the first American child to teleport and took part in probes to past and future events utilizing different forms of time travel then being researched and developed by DARPA. Obama denies. 

Technologies that facilitate futuristic capabilities are not of particular interest to me. Here is what is.

In Hamden-Truerniet's series of books on the Zeta Reticuli (and many other races), when asked of the likelihood of technology-based time travel, they responded with an alternative. In short, there cannot be 'time-travel' since time is an illusion. What they offer is a peek at their own technology, a Synthetic Quantum Environment or SQE.

"The synthetic quantum environment, or SQE, is created by the Zetas as a simulation of a particular environment. The SQE is not experienced as part of  our  physical  illusion.  It  is  a  non-physical  space  accessible  to  the consciousness of beings while they are in separation from their bodies. A human,  for  example,  must  be  in  separation  from  the  physical illusion  to enter an SQE. 

An  SQE  is  created  by  copying  the  original  environment  using  a technological process that includes consciousness. A number of SQEs are connected  as  a  network  and  have  on-board  intelligent  operators  that coordinate  the  activities  of  the  network. The  intelligence  appears  to  be  a component of the SQE itself.  

When an SQE is a simulation of a physical environment, it may be used as  a laboratory for performing experiments in that environment. This ensures that the experiments do not disrupt the original physical environment. For example,  Zetas  exist  only  on  a  single  timeline,  and  so  they  cannot experience  multiple  timelines  directly.  However,  humans  experience multiple  timelines  as  part  of  the  incarnation  process.  So  the  Zetas  have populated  SQEs  with  simulations  of  human  timelines  to  develop  their theoretical understanding of the multiple timelines."

The Zeta deny utilizing the SQE on humans but they did not deny that their technology has been either given or successfully engineered by human (intelligence) agencies. Basiago points to this high probability specifically naming Agency and DARPA, a pivotal investor in breakthrough technologies for national security. 

(2017-10-06, 08:39 PM)Pssst Wrote: [ -> ]There are a number of cases of technology-based time travel, one of the more interesting is the Andrew Basiago story. Although he mentions such celebrities as Obama and Regina Dugan - Head of DARPA - as America’s time travel pioneers. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, he was a child participant in the secret US time-space program, Project Pegasus.

He was the first American child to teleport and took part in probes to past and future events utilizing different forms of time travel then being researched and developed by DARPA. Obama denies. 

Technologies that facilitate futuristic capabilities are not of particular interest to me. Here is what is.

In Hamden-Truerniet's series of books on the Zeta Reticuli (and many other races), when asked of the likelihood of technology-based time travel, they responded with an alternative. In short, there cannot be 'time-travel' since time is an illusion. What they offer is a peek at their own technology, a Simulated Quantum Environment or SQE.

"The synthetic quantum environment, or SQE, is created by the Zetas as a simulation of a particular environment. The SQE is not experienced as part of  our  physical  illusion.  It  is  a  non-physical  space  accessible  to  the consciousness of beings while they are in separation from their bodies. A human,  for  example,  must  be  in  separation  from  the  physical illusion  to enter an SQE. 

An  SQE  is  created  by  copying  the  original  environment  using  a technological process that includes consciousness. A number of SQEs are connected  as  a  network  and  have  on-board  intelligent  operators  that coordinate  the  activities  of  the  network. The  intelligence  appears  to  be  a component of the SQE itself.  

When an SQE is a simulation of a physical environment, it may be used as  a laboratory for performing experiments in that environment. This ensures that the experiments do not disrupt the original physical environment. For example,  Zetas  exist  only  on  a  single  timeline,  and  so  they  cannot experience  multiple  timelines  directly.  However,  humans  experience multiple  timelines  as  part  of  the  incarnation  process.  So  the  Zetas  have populated  SQEs  with  simulations  of  human  timelines  to  develop  their theoretical understanding of the multiple timelines."

The Zeta deny utilizing the SQE on humans but they did not deny that their technology has been either given or successfully engineered by human (intelligence) agencies. Basiago points to this high probability specifically naming Agency and DARPA, a pivotal investor in breakthrough technologies for national security. 

Pssst

In a way it would be lovely to believe all this stuff about the secret history of time travel, teleportation and the Simulated (or is it Synthetic?) Quantum Environment. It certainly beats reading about Theresa May's cough, and even Donald Trump's antics. 

But do you really expect people here to accept what you're saying on the basis of the information in your posts? I mean, I think you have quite a critical audience here, and in your place I'd be trying to present some verifiable evidence rather than just stating things as facts. I'm just not sure what you expect to achieve.

(2017-10-06, 10:18 PM)Chris Wrote: [ -> ]Pssst

In a way it would be lovely to believe all this stuff about the secret history of time travel, teleportation and the Simulated (or is it Synthetic?) Quantum Environment. It certainly beats reading about Theresa May's cough, and even Donald Trump's antics. 

But do you really expect people here to accept what you're saying on the basis of the information in your posts? I mean, I think you have quite a critical audience here, and in your place I'd be trying to present some verifiable evidence rather than just stating things as facts. I'm just not sure what you expect to achieve.

It is none of my business what path you choose, who you listen to, or not, what decisions you make in your journey. What is my business is to be myself, present ideas that interest me. Nothing more. What comes of it is out of my hands (and interest), I carry no expectations.

However, Basiago encountered something he knew was real and if that is so, then what was it? From whom? For what reason?

(2017-10-06, 10:35 PM)Pssst Wrote: [ -> ]It is none of my business what path you choose, who you listen to, or not, what decisions you make in your journey. What is my business is to be myself, present ideas that interest me. Nothing more. What comes of it is out of my hands (and interest), I carry no expectations.

You must be posting them here for some reason, though, rather than walking by your wild lone through the Wet Wild Woods and waving your wild tail.

(2017-10-07, 08:37 AM)Chris Wrote: [ -> ]You must be posting them here for some reason, though, rather than walking by your wild lone through the Wet Wild Woods and waving your wild tail.

He posts here because he makes at least as much sense as anyone else.

You probably think I'm joking.

(2017-10-06, 08:39 PM)Pssst Wrote: [ -> ]There are a number of cases of technology-based time travel, 

I am not exaggerating when I say, I could write a whole book rather than just this post. But that will have to be for a different day I guess...

My friends would send me a one way ticket to the loonie bin if they have the slightest idea the stuff I come across when "on the computer".

Pssst- you seem like a rational (well mostly) and thoughtful person, but really?

I suppose it's my own fault- by opening one's self to what 99% of population writes off as pure and simple craziness, I guess one has no hard defense against stuff that goes well beyond what one might glean from "main stream" psi accounts. And I guess that's because there ARE NO "mainstream" accounts. It's all wacko for most people. And most people can just write stuff like your story off as just one more crazy thing to ignore.

The bitch is, for people like me who DO buy into some of this stuff, where to draw the line? Where do you throw up your hands and say, "this is plain and simple nonsense".

I have no answer, maybe someone else can help me here. 

It's like taking a pill and destroying your immune system. You are now open to any sickness that is out there and have no way to fight it.

Again- it's my own fault I suppose.

EDIT- just wanted to add- I am not saying this topic is crazy-town (although it may be). I am asking how, once we enter this world of believing in marginally provable stuff,,, where to draw the line on accepting what may sound like nutty talk? I would say it comes down to evidence, but the problem is, MANY people think the evidence that we currently accept, is invalid.

I suppose if you prefer to live your Life worrying about what others might think, that's a valid experience. I choose differently.

(2017-10-07, 11:58 AM)jkmac Wrote: [ -> ]Pssst- you seem like a rational (well mostly) and thoughtful person, but really?

I suppose it's my own fault- by opening one's self to what 99% of population writes off as pure and simple craziness, I guess one has no hard defense against stuff that goes well beyond what one might glean from "main stream" psi accounts. And I guess that's because there ARE NO "mainstream" accounts. It's all wacko for most people. And most people can just write stuff like your story off as just one more crazy thing to ignore.

The bitch is, for people like me who DO buy into some of this stuff, where to draw the line? Where do you throw up your hands and say, "this is plain and simple nonsense".

I have no answer, maybe someone else can help me here. It's like taking a pill and destroying your immune system. You are now open to any sickness that is out there and have no way to fight it.

Again- it's my own fault I suppose.

EDIT- just wanted to add- I am not saying this topic is crazy-town (although it may be). I am asking how, once we enter this world of believing in marginally provable stuff,,, where to draw the line on accepting what may sound like nutty talk? I would say it comes down to evidence, but the problem is, MANY people think the evidence that we currently accept, is invalid.

When ppl decide what I present is outside of their comfort zone, crazy, zany and/or simply too wild to be true, then I have performed a service. They get to take my POV and the extreme POV ('can't possibly be true') and choose what they prefer. Who learns without contrast? No one.

How many times have you (pl) seen or heard something that was, according to you, "off the charts"? How many times, down the road, do you see those things come to fruition and remember "Yeah, hey, that nutjob on PsiQuest", a historical marker that assists in the validation? Often? Occasionally? Rarely? Once? One white crow.

From my POV, I wonder wtf are ppl doing with their time? How is it possible that anyone in their right mind would claim that ETs are non-existent? It's a non-starter.

If they exist, then why is it so improbable that they are communicating with us? If my POV, which is decidedly the POV of many ETs, is inaccurate then go find ET communicators and set your own parameters. Do you feel that you are not worthy?

It's is the time of the season to grow up. Old terminologies (reincarnation, afterlife, time, etc.) need to be released, new ones (simultaneous incarnations, energy transitioning and vibratory placeholders, Now) employed. As always, it is your choice but there will come a time, very, very soon, that if you have not chosen to jump tracks to the train of the Age Of New Information, then you will be stuck in that physical reality...while others will be 'stuck' in theirs.

We won't be able to see each other anymore. "Hmm, where did that nutjob go, oh well, back to arguing the insignificance of scientific significance..." as if Pssst never existed.