When the Dead seem Living

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We've talked about this case in the past, Gabriel even had a video that sadly is now removed for whatever reasons, but here is an article ->


Things You Can Do When You're Dead!

Robert McLuhan 

Quote:Tricia Robertson is a paranormal investigator in Glasgow, a recent president of the Scottish Society for Psychical Research. She has been involved in a number of investigations and some years ago co-authored a much-praised research study into mediums.

Quote:She starts with a startling case of the crisis apparition type. A retired Navy pilot named Bob is returning from a foreign trip and arrives at Glasgow airport expecting a friend to pick him up. There’s no sign of the friend, but he catches sight of another pilot, a man 20 years younger named Jack whom he used to know well when they flew on the same airline. Jack is coming towards him, grinning; they exchange pleasantries, and then he rushes off to catch a plane. The following day Bob sees an obituary in a newspaper about Jack, who it appears died after an illness in an Edinburgh hospital – two days before the meeting.

Quote:Upon checking aeroplane timetables for that day we discovered that there was a flight to Jack’s small hometown at 3.00pm on the day in question and the checkout desk for that flight was the end desk which Bob saw his friend running towards. (It is worth noting again that Bob checked his watch at 2.45pm). The chief of security also established, subsequently, that the coffin of an airline pilot was transported through Glasgow Airport about that time and certainly on that day, having been already transferred from Edinburgh. Although we cannot pinpoint the exact time of this coffin transfer we know for certain that it was loaded on to an aircraft bound for Jack’s hometown destination on that day. One possible answer to this mystery would have been if Jack had a twin brother or a brother who looked exactly like him, and who also knew Bob, but he did not. No other person with even the same surname was on board that 3 o’clock flight.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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From Mishlove's Bigelow Essay:

Quote:This case is instructive as it shows the deceased acting with a sense of purpose we can’t attribute to any living person. Kübler-Ross’ transformative after-death communication. As reported in the Introduction, a brief dream visitation from my deceased Uncle Harry catalyzed my life transformation. Another life-changing example is Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, whom Time magazine named in 1999 as one of the “100 Most Important Thinkers” of the previous century. A powerful, evidential after-death communication stimulated her pioneering work on the stages of confronting death.

At the time this after-death communication occurred, Kübler-Ross was experiencing burnout. Her seminars on death and dying had deteriorated. She had decided, even though she hadn’t told anyone, to quit her work at the University of Chicago. She was about to announce her decision to a new minister with whom she was working, when suddenly a woman appeared and asked to walk with Kübler-Ross to her office.

As they walked, Kübler-Ross recognized this woman as the memorable Mrs. Schwartz, a former patient who had been the first person to report a near-death experience to Kübler- Ross and had died ten months previously. The woman was insistent Kübler-Ross mustn’t abandon her work on death and dying. She even insisted Kübler-Ross promise her right then and there that she would continue.


Kübler-Ross, recognizing the situation’s astonishing gravity, asked Mrs. Schwartz to write a note. Kübler-Ross describes the event’s emotional intensity: 

Quote:And this woman, with the most human, no, not human, most loving smile, knowing every thought I had – and I knew it, it was thought transference if I’ve ever experienced it – took the paper and wrote a note.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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The pilot and copilot of Eastern Airlines Flight 401 is another memorable one.

The frequency of these highly interactive experiences seems to reduce over time, until they often seem to fade away around 3 years afterwards. Bit like the expanding concentric rings one gets, after dropping a stone into the perfectly still water of a lake.

The deceased only seem able to access experients via any patterns the deceased have been associated with whilst living (people, things, landscapes, journeys etc).

My suspicion is that these deceased maybe still dying back in our past, when they communicate in our present. That they somehow transcend our notions of time and space, as they become unconfined, and expand (relatively to the living). Thats the idea that spacetime and QM emerge from a single more primitive mathematical structure (that resembles a biological structure).

These anomalous phenomena are certainly an interesting piece of the puzzle of experience.
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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This is a very interesting report. I also heard the pilot interviewed. He certainly sounded sincere and straightforward to me.
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