Three Persuasive Events?

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It’s fascinating how different we all are, how we prioritise things differently when we all have the same evidence to choose from.

Linda, I wanted to give your post a like for adding to the thread, but not the content.  Big Grin

Max, I considered Harry Martindale’s ghostly Roman story instead of the Pilot. For me it’s equally strong. It’s amazing that some of us attach so much weight to such accounts while others discount them totally.
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Thanks Stan, for starting this thread.

Mine are all personal experiences.

As a background, I've sometimes viewed the world a bit like the story of a very ill young boy. All he knew was the inside of his room. People might come and go, bringing books, radio, television and so on. But from his perspective, all he knew was the inside of that room, and everything he was told about the world beyond could be some elaborate sort of make-believe, a fiction.

In some ways I still retain that kind of worldview. Though on an intellectual level I was prepared to admit the possibility that other countries did exist, it wasn't until I stepped off a plane and placed my foot on the ground that I actually was prepared to admit that at least one of those other lands did exist.

This conflict tension between abstract intellectual knowledge and actual first-hand experience has probably been the starting point for me.

So on to my list:
  1. Spontaneous telepathic contact.
  2. Dreams and semi-awake state experiences, for example on the nature of time, which I've documented elsewhere.
  3. Personal uncovering of reincarnation. Somewhat related, the power of prayer, even to an atheist/agnostic. (Logically, these are separate topics. But the knowledge and experience of both was part of a single discovery event. )
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Best three is hard to choose.

If I’m forced to pick I’d say:

1 hearing my friend speak to me at her funeral.
2 seeing one of my pets after they had died.
3 long friendship with Zerdini (Zerdinisworld.com) and his many experiences.

The Pilot example you have cited I think is a superb example. It’s  interesting that you spoke to Captain Bob’s son - I’d be very interested to hear how that happened and some more detail if you’re happy to share?

The Roman soldiers in York was convincing too but what it was, I’m not sure.
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(2018-04-25, 04:56 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: What are your top three personally persuasive ‘paranormal events’?

As you wrote, it's a hard question. For me, it's too hard. The top "event" though would probably be ongoing problematic experiences which I'd rather not discuss again here - I've talked about them publicly enough already.

Good thread!
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(2018-04-26, 06:30 AM)Mediochre Wrote: I'm always jealous of people who get any sort of direct telekinesis to work even if it's just once or a little bit.

Yeah, it was a strange experience! And there's still a skeptical side in me that looks for a materialist explanation (which I don't think is a bad thing per se). 
  • The glass was covered, so no wind from me getting up, or a draft etc.
  • Unlikely to be thermal convection (chances of it happening at the exact same time I verbally announce my departure from the room, are quite low I would imagine...), plus our hands were not on the glass.
  • The table it was sat on, we shook around to see if any movement of that would do the trick - the piece of paper didn't even budge in the slightest!
I can't even think of anything else that might have effected it. 

A data point to note is that my friend and I are quite close friends - we lived together in the same room for a year, worked together and developed a good relationship. He is also quite the spiritualist type of dude too! Believes in positive thinking, love at first sight, soul-mates etc. So it would appear that what Dean Radin says about emotions being important and by inference, the bonds you have with someone, is spot on. 

I wonder what was important about me announcing my intention to leave, that seemed to coincide with the PK event. Could have just been a coincidence right enough.
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(2018-04-26, 09:23 AM)Obiwan Wrote: The Pilot example you have cited I think is a superb example. It’s  interesting that you spoke to Captain Bob’s son - I’d be very interested to hear how that happened and some more detail if you’re happy to share?

The Roman soldiers in York was convincing too but what it was, I’m not sure.

Hi Oblwan

I was able to talk to Bob’s son because I asked about Bob on a pilot’s forum I sometimes visit. Someone alerted him to my post and he got in touch. Unfortunately he phoned me, so I have no record of what was said. 

The gist was that it was as he’d said in the video. As I said before, his dad was shocked by what happened, and it changed his outlook. There was some question of him being a drinker, he was, but I don’t think it was a factor in what happened. I wish I could say more.

Yes, the Roman soldiers were amazing. It was the genuine nature of Harry Martindale that attracted me to that case, “you couldn’t make it up” was literally true in this instance.
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(2018-04-26, 08:01 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: Hi Oblwan

I was able to talk to Bob’s son because I asked about Bob on a pilot’s forum I sometimes visit. Someone alerted him to my post and he got in touch. Unfortunately he phoned me, so I have no record of what was said. 

The gist was that it was as he’d said in the video. As I said before, his dad was shocked by what happened, and it changed his outlook. There was some question of him being a drinker, he was, but I don’t think it was a factor in what happened. I wish I could say more.

Yes, the Roman soldiers were amazing. It was the genuine nature of Harry Martindale that attracted me to that case, “you couldn’t make it up” was literally true in this instance.

Thanks Stan.
(2018-04-26, 06:34 AM)Stan Woolley Wrote: It’s fascinating how different we all are, how we prioritise things differently when we all have the same evidence to choose from.

Linda, I wanted to give your post a like for adding to the thread, but not the content.  Big Grin

Max, I considered Harry Martindale’s ghostly Roman story instead of the Pilot. For me it’s equally strong. It’s amazing that some of us attach so much weight to such accounts while others discount them totally.
Really?

I thought this particular divide became clear long ago. 

I did think of something, when telekinesis was mentioned...I win at Bunko (a pure chance dice game) far more often than I should. It's at the point where, because I have been put in charge of collecting the score sheets and determining the winners, I hide the fact that I have won and declare the next person up the winner.

I used to think that I won so much because I discovered an asymmetry in the game which could be exploited. But that loophole was closed several years ago, yet I continue to win a lot. I thought that it was interesting that I explained away my luck as skill, when maybe it was no such thing. Smile  

Linda
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(2018-04-26, 09:27 PM)Max_B Wrote: Yeah, there are other good experiences to choose from.

I'm one of those who actually did discount apparitions until my 2007 hallucination... to my embarrassment, I had previously made fun of my partners interest in Ghosts, which I considered utter rubbish.

But my 2007 experience really scared me, and humbled me, I admit I burst into tears afterwards. Immediately after the experience I felt like I had opened a door earlier in the day, which I found I was neither ready for, nor capable of dealing with, and I felt like I mentally slammed the door shut.

Thank you Max, I appreciate you posting such a personal insight.
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