Sleep Paralysis again

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(2018-01-27, 12:46 PM)Doppelgänger Wrote: I'm not even sure if my sleep paralysis experience had anything to do with it, as there were differences. I'm just still shaken up by the experience.

I'm certain that your sleep paralysis experience was linked. Precognition doesn't always outline exactly how something will happen, but rather give you various hints about what may happen.
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(2018-01-27, 01:16 PM)Valmar Wrote: I'm certain that your sleep paralysis experience was linked. Precognition doesn't always outline exactly how something will happen, but rather give you various hints about what may happen.

Yes, I think you are right. There are differences in that it was in the morning, rather than at night. It's like I was warned, including the stupid robocalls, like something was telling me to not sleep, to stay awake. I at least was able to scream at the guy enough to make him retreat, run over and close and bolt the door. I was so mad at myself for not bolting the door like I usually do.

Also, I was able to get him out before he opened my bedroom door. In my dream/sleep paralysis, he or it did open my bedroom door.

I really don't know how to feel about all this. Unfortunately, I have to deal with the legal side of this right now. I just wish it would all go away.
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(2018-01-27, 01:38 PM)Doppelgänger Wrote: I really don't know how to feel about all this. Unfortunately, I have to deal with the legal side of this right now. I just wish it would all go away.

Sadly, the only way to make it go away is to get the pain of dealing with the legal aspects over and done with, so you're not worrying quite as much.

That doesn't make dealing with the trauma any easier, though...

Something that may help rather well, is focused psychedelic therapy. Psilocybin mushrooms are well-known for helping people break free of trauma and depression. If you decide to do it alone, make sure your wife is fully aware and supportive and can help you stay grounded. If possible, it would be superior to find a psychologist or psychiatrist who offers psychedelic therapy, but unfortunately, such people may be hard to find, due to cultural ignorance and stigma around psychedelics.
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(2018-01-27, 01:50 PM)Valmar Wrote: Sadly, the only way to make it go away is to get the pain of dealing with the legal aspects over and done with, so you're not worrying quite as much.

That doesn't make dealing with the trauma any easier, though...

Something that may help rather well, is focused psychedelic therapy. Psilocybin mushrooms are well-known for helping people break free of trauma and depression. If you decide to do it alone, make sure your wife is fully aware and supportive and can help you stay grounded. If possible, it would be superior to find a psychologist or psychiatrist who offers psychedelic therapy, but unfortunately, such people may be hard to find, due to cultural ignorance and stigma around psychedelics.

Wow, that's pretty funny. I'm traumatized by another home invasion, and in the middle of a legal issue and... you recommend ... shrooms? 

Look, I've done shrooms in the past, and I am critical of Big Pharma and their antidepressants and other drugs, but really? Telling me to consider illegal drugs while I'm in the middle of an issue with the law you recommend this? I don't think so.
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(2018-01-27, 02:06 PM)Doppelgänger Wrote: Wow, that's pretty funny. I'm traumatized by another home invasion, and in the middle of a legal issue and... you recommend ... shrooms? 

Look, I've done shrooms in the past, and I am critical of Big Pharma and their antidepressants and other drugs, but really? Telling me to consider illegal drugs while I'm in the middle of an issue with the law you recommend this? I don't think so.

Maybe it wasn't the best of advice, sorry... I should have thought a bit more clearly before saying something like this. Sad
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(2017-11-21, 10:55 AM)Doppelgänger Wrote: Ah, might as well post this here….

I haven’t had sleep paralysis in many years.

But, last week, I was recovering from a cold, slept a lot, and had strange dreams.

I have a huge fear of a home invasion since I experienced one, while I was home, about twenty years ago. I still have nightmares about it, from time to time.

A few days ago, I was sick, I was sleeping A LOT. My seven-year-old was also feeling sick and wanted to sleep with me and my SO. I fell asleep, but I heard the sounds of foot steps in the hallway. I thought, shit, my SO went to bed after me and he never bolts the door. (I’m obsessive about bolting the door due to the home invasion I had.) I start thinking, like I do, that it’s maybe the cats making noise. So, I’m just listening to the sounds, hoping it’s cats, when my bedroom door opens.

I start freaking out, I’m thinking, “Oh my god, it’s happening again, someone really has broken in!” A man walks in, and is standing in the door frame. We keep the light on in the hallway in case one of the kids needs to pee at night. I can see the hallway light framing him and he looks dark, I can’t see any features . i’m convinced someone has broken into the house, but then I can’t scream. I try with all my might to move my index finger, because I have my arm over my son and onto my SO’s chest, near his neck.

I start concentrating on moving my index finger to scratch my SO’s neck, to wake him up, because I can’t move or scream. I remember it barely moved.

Then I look back at the figure in the doorway, and it hasn’t moved at all. It’s just standing there. I thought, well, that’s weird for a burglar to do. I then realized that I could not see any features on “his” face. I then thought it was weird that he was just standing there, looking at us sleep.

I started to panic even more, but then it was like the spell was broken, and I sat up, yelling “What!” I swear I had more to add to the “what” but I could see that the bedroom door was closed. Everyone was asleep in the bed, but I knew I had experienced sleep paralysis again.

Afterwords, my SO and I joked about how it was a demon who wanted to scare me, but then was super bummed that I was more terrified of home invasions and burglars than demons.

That’s a horrible experience. I try to act on my feelings now, because looked at from one angle, I think they do give insights into future events that we can sometimes avoid. It can make me appear a little paranoid... lol..  because there is often no way of knowing whether I prevented anything or not. Also it’s difficult to distinguish ego type feelings, from the genuine feelings. But I think I’m getting better in sensing the difference between them. Anyways, I listen to my feelings nowdays, and generally act on them when they feel sort of selfless. If something starts telling me to bolt the door, take a different route, increase my security etc. then that’s what I do. I like to think of time and space in the same way, for example when one sees a turd on the sidewalk in front of one (in the future too), one changes direction through space to avoid stepping in it. I think ‘feelings’ can often help us avoid stepping into a mataphorical turd in the future as well. But I think they are harder to pin down. When they speak to me strongly though, I tend to act, particularly if I’m honest with myself and can’t feel much ego involved.
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(2018-01-28, 08:50 PM)Max_B Wrote: That’s a horrible experience. I try to act on my feelings now, because looked at from one angle, I think they do give insights into future events that we can sometimes avoid. It can make me appear a little paranoid... lol..  because there is often no way of knowing whether I prevented anything or not. Also it’s difficult to distinguish ego type feelings, from the genuine feelings. But I think I’m getting better in sensing the difference between them. Anyways, I listen to my feelings nowdays, and generally act on them when they feel sort of selfless. If something starts telling me to bolt the door, take a different route, increase my security etc. then that’s what I do. I like to think of time and space in the same way, for example when one sees a turd on the sidewalk in front of one (in the future too), one changes direction through space to avoid stepping in it. I think ‘feelings’ can often help us avoid stepping into a mataphorical turd in the future as well. But I think they are harder to pin down. When they speak to me strongly though, I tend to act, particularly if I’m honest with myself and can’t feel much ego involved.

I'm never going to ignore my instincts again, that's for sure! I feel like everything was telling me to keep that door bolt in place, but when it counted, I didn't do it. I feel like I let myself and my son down, because I didn't listen to myself. I should have known better.

Thanks for your message, it is interesting. I think we shouldn't care if people say one is "paranoid," because they acted off of a bad feeling. It could be instinct; it could be precognition; it could be many things. I learned the hard way that I should listen to that "paranoid" voice nagging me. Huh
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(2018-02-04, 01:13 PM)Doppelgänger Wrote: I'm never going to ignore my instincts again, that's for sure! I feel like everything was telling me to keep that door bolt in place, but when it counted, I didn't do it. I feel like I let myself and my son down, because I didn't listen to myself. I should have known better.

Thanks for your message, it is interesting. I think we shouldn't care if people say one is "paranoid," because they acted off of a bad feeling. It could be instinct; it could be precognition; it could be many things. I learned the hard way that I should listen to that "paranoid" voice nagging me. Huh

I agree that it's important to pay attention to one's instincts. That is a lesson I too learned the hard way. My experience was completely unrelated to the type of events you describe here, but I tried to balance listening to the best well-intentioned advice from others, or simply listening to my own instincts. The outcome was a painful mess, because I chose to ignore my own instincts.  

What I would like to suggest though, is that the label "paranoid" may be inappropriate. Not all such instinctive feelings are about something bad which could happen. One may also have instincts about something extremely positive and good which could happen. If one has a feeling that something good is about to happen, is that paranoia? Personally, I don't think so. Hence I'd take that out characterisation, and just hold on to the important thing, that is, ones instincts do matter.
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(2018-02-04, 01:39 PM)Typoz Wrote: I agree that it's important to pay attention to one's instincts. That is a lesson I too learned the hard way. My experience was completely unrelated to the type of events you describe here, but I tried to balance listening to the best well-intentioned advice from others, or simply listening to my own instincts. The outcome was a painful mess, because I chose to ignore my own instincts.  

What I would like to suggest though, is that the label "paranoid" may be inappropriate. Not all such instinctive feelings are about something bad which could happen. One may also have instincts about something extremely positive and good which could happen. If one has a feeling that something good is about to happen, is that paranoia? Personally, I don't think so. Hence I'd take that out characterisation, and just hold on to the important thing, that is, ones instincts do matter.

I would be interested in hearing your experience, but if you don’t want to share, I understand.

I meant that one gets called “paranoid” for listening to their “gut” or instincts. I actually despise how the culture puts down “listening to your gut” and instincts. Sorry if I worded that badly. I think “paranoid” is often used as a slur.
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