Question about NDEs.

2 Replies, 587 Views

In accounts from the NDE community we often hear that ‘I need you to return to do something’ or ‘your contract hasn’t been completed’ or something similar, but exactly what it is that they have to do is left unsaid. I may have heard otherwise but simply can’t remember. Is it assumed by the experiencer that speaking about their account is the main reason they are allowed to return to their previous life?

I wonder if they have the same free will as they had on earth when making any decisions.

Are you aware of any accounts where this task has been clearly spelled out?
Oh my God, I hate all this.   Surprise
[-] The following 2 users Like Stan Woolley's post:
  • Obiwan, Sciborg_S_Patel
(2021-01-03, 10:48 AM)Stan Woolley Wrote: In accounts from the NDE community we often hear that ‘I need you to return to do something’ or ‘your contract hasn’t been completed’ or something similar, but exactly what it is that they have to do is left unsaid. I may have heard otherwise but simply can’t remember. Is it assumed by the experiencer that speaking about their account is the main reason they are allowed to return to their previous life?

I wonder if they have the same free will as they had on earth when making any decisions.

Are you aware of any accounts where this task has been clearly spelled out?

Like many on here, Stan, I think I could have a reasonable stab at this (interesting) question but I always feel uneasy discussing the deeper content of NDE's because we really aren't going to 'know' with any certainty, are we. It looks to me like the future may be pre-determined and then again it may be variable and alterable or actually non existent, or maybe it's all of those.

And as our understanding of the way time works is incomplete you can make a case for several options, I would have thought. One man who I spoke to quite regularly (who had a cardiac arrest and has now died) reported that he was told to go back because his wife needed him. 

That was it. There was no "go back and perform amazing altruistic deeds for your fellow man".  This 'being' that sent/persuaded him to go back (even though he absolutely did not want to) obviously knew that his body was going to be, or was capable of being resuscitated.

So what about the one's who don't make it.  Does the 'being' know that their particular medical circumstance are beyond retrieval ?  In that instant, how does it work? Does intervention sometimes come in, like the "presence" in the operating room (Lloyd Rudy) and if it does, why not for everyone ? And are we supposed to beg for it ? 

So, in answer to your question (but not a satisfactory one) his task was 'spelled' out, but it was only go back because your wife needs you.
[-] The following 7 users Like tim's post:
  • nbtruthman, Obiwan, Laird, Raimo, Sciborg_S_Patel, OmniVersalNexus, Stan Woolley
Feel like it's one of those many things about NDEs that if they work as we believe they might, might not ever be able to get a proper answer, even with more research.

From my impression a lot of times the messages people get when they are sent back are on the pretty simple side. Don't be such a prick, your job isn't so important, you just aren't meant to die yet you've still got life left in you. I don't think I've ever read one where it's like "Alright go to 3,12 Olive Street and fuckin flog this guy he's been stealing your newspaper" kind of deal. I'd be skeptical reading cases like that in the first place. 

A lot of times too though it seems to be people just go back as well. They can't push any further, they hit a literal brick wall I remember being in some Japanese NDEs, they're just told it's not their time or they're having the time of the death and then those dang pesky doctors zap them back to reality by saving their lives.

I don't think there is any grand preordained future about it or you need to like beg to be saved and get that breathe of life into your body. Might just be the way it is. But then we just don't know how it'd be for people who actually die, they're not talking. Best we have is mediums and before life memories that correlate with NDE stuff.
[-] The following 4 users Like Smaw's post:
  • nbtruthman, Obiwan, OmniVersalNexus, Stan Woolley

  • View a Printable Version
Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)