Interesting experience.

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I've been working with a friend over the last 4 years, to help him produce and publish his musical compositions. We're just beginning to release audio singles that he wrote and produced during 2020/21. Today we released his second single. I produced the social media music videos, and promotional video's on Twitter etc, designed his logo, and produced the cover for this latest single.

As it's very early days, he has virtually no followers, and almost zero visibility. But one old school friend, and couple of ex work colleagues started following him last month, after he released his first single, and put it on facebook.

I set the youtube video for this second single, to automatically publish at 1am this morning. And when I woke up at about 6:30am this morning, I checked on my ipad, that it had been published on youtube, and played it through.

I got up, had breakfast, then thought I had just enough time to produce a 30 sec promotional music video for twitter, before I had to leave for work, and a 9am meeting. I selected the best 30 sec segment of his musical composition, produced the video, and published it to his twitter account. Jumped in the shower, got dressed, loaded the car, then found I needed the loo.

As you do.. or at least I sometimes do, whilst sat on the loo, I got my phone out of my pocket, and I thought I had a moment of spare time to check that his single had been published on Apple Music, and I was interested to see what the artwork would look like on the app.

Now here comes the really strange part. I've been listening to this piece of music since my friend produced it, that's probably over 2 years, I love it. I know what it sounds like. Although how it sounds to me has slowly altered over time, it sounded the same as usual when I checked it on Youtube earlier in the morning, and when I was selecting the best 30 sec section for the twitter video I published. That's just how it sounds to me, and it sounded the same as usual.

But when I played the track, on Apple Music at that moment, it strongly reminded me of Star Trek, it was so strong, that I remember thinking, OMG, how bizzare, how have I not noticed that before in all the months I've been playing the track! I filed this bizarre event away, finished off in the loo, and dashed out to the car. It usually takes me approximately 10 minutes to drive to work, and I got into the office at 9:01am. During the drive, my iphone immediately started playing the track again, on repeat, after hearing it twice, I turned off the cars audio (but I don't recall that it sounded like Star Trek again during the drive). I just forgot the event altogether, in my haste to make my 9am meeting, and never recalled it again. During the day, I also played the single to a colleague at work off my phone, and it just sounded normal, I don't recall it sounded anything like Star Trek.

That's where that part of the story ends... until I got home after 5pm... and checked up on how the listens to the single were going. One of his old school friends, the follower on Youtube had left a nice comment comment on the music video at 8:57am that began: "Very Star Trek!"
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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That's great. When you say Star Trek, do you mean the theme song for the TV show?
(This post was last modified: 2023-07-07, 11:34 PM by Ninshub.)
(2023-07-07, 11:34 PM)Ninshub Wrote: That's great. When you say Star Trek, do you mean the theme song for the TV show?

yes, but the music for the Star Trek motion pictures starring William Shatner.
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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Why not put a link to the piece, or your promotional clip?

David
I don't think it would add anything to the case, and I want to maintain everyones privacy, including my own.
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
I'm guessing my post went over everyone's head...
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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(2023-07-10, 11:21 PM)Max_B Wrote: I'm guessing my post went over everyone's head...

How so Max? You got 6 likes. It's fairly clear to me what you wrote. Now what it means is something else entirely and I have no clue where to start! Smile
Sorry about the late response from me.

I found that account of your experience really interesting @Max_B. One feature in particular was the timing. You described it this way:
Quote:But when I played the track, on Apple Music at that moment, it strongly reminded me of Star Trek, it was so strong, that I remember thinking, OMG, how bizzare, how have I not noticed that before in all the months I've been playing the track!
then in the same post,
Quote:comment on the music video at 8:57am that began: "Very Star Trek!"

That seems to me at least to suggest those things were happening simultaneously.

It corresponds very much with some of my own experiences involving online postings. It hasn't happened to me for a while now, perhaps because my posts don't evoke any strong emotions or feelings in others. To an extent that is a deliberate choice on my part.

I used to post very frequently on a forum where particular computer programming questions were asked and answered. Many of the questions came from beginners and my intermediate-level skills were sufficient to sometimes be able to help out. Forum members lived in locations all around the world in different time zones and it was never certain when any of my posts would be seen and read by the person who asked the question. For a while I would check the forum often after I'd posted, to see if there was any form of acknowledgement or reply. But I discovered I didn't need to keep checking. At some random time of day I would feel a surge of positive or negative emotion (hopefully more of the positive kind) and I soon found these waves of emotion occurred at the time when someone had responded to my post. Occasionally there was intense gratitude expressed, at other times frustration or anger or worse as a response.

That's a general trend I noticed, it doesn't matter whether I was deliberately obtuse or genuinely helpful in my intentions, it is the perception of the reader which supplied the character of the emotion I would feel. Naturally I avoid posting much or at all on controversial topics as it is just too likely to feel very unpleasant soon afterwards. I prefer a more steady life without these external emotions impacting my day.
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(2023-07-11, 12:47 PM)Typoz Wrote: Sorry about the late response from me.

I found that account of your experience really interesting @Max_B. One feature in particular was the timing. You described it this way:
then in the same post,

That seems to me at least to suggest those things were happening simultaneously.

It corresponds very much with some of my own experiences involving online postings. It hasn't happened to me for a while now, perhaps because my posts don't evoke any strong emotions or feelings in others. To an extent that is a deliberate choice on my part.

I used to post very frequently on a forum where particular computer programming questions were asked and answered. Many of the questions came from beginners and my intermediate-level skills were sufficient to sometimes be able to help out. Forum members lived in locations all around the world in different time zones and it was never certain when any of my posts would be seen and read by the person who asked the question. For a while I would check the forum often after I'd posted, to see if there was any form of acknowledgement or reply. But I discovered I didn't need to keep checking. At some random time of day I would feel a surge of positive or negative emotion (hopefully more of the positive kind) and I soon found these waves of emotion occurred at the time when someone had responded to my post. Occasionally there was intense gratitude expressed, at other times frustration or anger or worse as a response.

That's a general trend I noticed, it doesn't matter whether I was deliberately obtuse or genuinely helpful in my intentions, it is the perception of the reader which supplied the character of the emotion I would feel. Naturally I avoid posting much or at all on controversial topics as it is just too likely to feel very unpleasant soon afterwards. I prefer a more steady life without these external emotions impacting my day.

Thanks Typoz, your comments are pretty much the same as my own thoughts about what happened. I've also had similar things occur with forum postings. The common thing appears to be the shared pattern, and it appears to be a stronger effect the less interference there is with it (i.e. it's a pretty unique pattern). This is the first case I'm aware of where I may have been absorbed in the pattern, at or around the same time someone else was absorbed in it - and the experience was strong, so strong it was bizarre, it actually altered my experience.

All the time we've been working towards the release of his music, I've been wondering if we might catch a glimpse of an anomalous effect. These are unique, and complex patterns we've been developing, they were created by us, and they've got very little interference on them, as they've not been seen or heard before. What has happened, is far more amazing than I could have expected.

It is absolute confirmation for me that 'they' must already understand the powerful anomalous effect of live broadcast (TV/Radio). The news - for example - on the hour - that's not an accident. They must already understand that emotional information content, displayed to many people everywhere at the same moment, creates amplified thoughts within them, which may not have been their own.
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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