Commentary thread for tim's "NDE's" thread

She said that when she was recovering from her injuries, she got rather depressed. Then a voice told her "Only forty more years".
Which puts me on easy street.

She said that when she was recovering from her injuries, she got rather depressed. Then a voice told her "Only forty more years".
Which puts me on easy street.

Ah ic. In situations like this I often think to myself “well, plans change”.

Hellish NDEs like this one are strange, they put a cat amongst my pigeons.

There's a Brazilian movie called Nosso Lar (aka Astral City) which describes the initial stages of the afterlife of a doctor who died in the 1930's (I think). The movie was taken from a book channeled by a famous Brazilian medium, Chico Xavier, who channeled material from the doctor, one André Luiz. The first environment he encounters is indeed a hellish place and he resides there for some (indeterminate) time until he is spiritually ready to move on.

My own understanding of this is that we manifest whatever environment our beliefs determine. For example, if someone carries a lot of guilt, for whatever reason, then he/she may believe that some kind of hellish ordeal is inevitable, so will create such. I think that is why a lot of eastern and new age spiritual and meditation techniques concentrate on healing and loving the self before anything else; guilt being a negative and pointless, yet very powerful, emotion.

The movie was on YouTube until recently but it seems to have been removed.

https://www.dailygrail.com/2010/09/nosso...om-brazil/

There's a Brazilian movie called Nosso Lar (aka Astral City) which describes the initial stages of the afterlife of a doctor who died in the 1930's (I think). The movie was taken from a book channeled by a famous Brazilian medium, Chico Xavier, who channeled material from the doctor, one André Luiz. The first environment he encounters is indeed a hellish place and he resides there for some (indeterminate) time until he is spiritually ready to move on.

My own understanding of this is that we manifest whatever environment our beliefs determine. For example, if someone carries a lot of guilt, for whatever reason, then he/she may believe that some kind of hellish ordeal is inevitable, so will create such. I think that is why a lot of eastern and new age spiritual and meditation techniques concentrate on healing and loving the self before anything else; guilt being a negative and pointless, yet very powerful, emotion.

The movie was on YouTube until recently but it seems to have been removed.

https://www.dailygrail.com/2010/09/nosso...om-brazil/

I think I've seen the film, I may even have a copy somewhere. I just don't know what to think, what you say makes some sort of sense though. The thing is, I think that Archangel Michael is a real being, as he's discussed in spiritual texts. One person I know is really deferential and respectful even talking about him. I don't think for one minute that she's being silly. She's a really great person that I very much respect.

If Michael is real, then I think the 13foot tall demon probably is too! 

I've watched and read a lot about NDEs, but not that much about hellish ones. I'm catching up as we speak, by watching as many as I can with an open mind, hoping I'll get a feel for them. Also reading  Dancing Past the Dark and probably more. They're very interesting.

I think I've seen the film, I may even have a copy somewhere.

Nosso Lar

I think I've seen the film, I may even have a copy somewhere. I just don't know what to think, what you say makes some sort of sense though. The thing is, I think that Archangel Michael is a real being, as he's discussed in spiritual texts. One person I know is really deferential and respectful even talking about him.

The so-named "Advanced Masters" are very high vibration beings who use names like Michael or Gabriel since they represented the ideas of beings "next to God". This is also the variant found in the Old Testament albeit the verbiage has been so artlessly tampered with as to be practically useless.

Archangels are considered the next set of non-physical beings once removed from All That Is by our ET bros and sisses.

My own understanding of this is that we manifest whatever environment our beliefs determine. For example, if someone carries a lot of guilt, for whatever reason, then he/she may believe that some kind of hellish ordeal is inevitable, so will create such. I think that is why a lot of eastern and new age spiritual and meditation techniques concentrate on healing and loving the self before anything else; guilt being a negative and pointless, yet very powerful, emotion.

We manifest our physical reality and, at the 'lower levels' of post-death realms, we carry over our beliefs and manifest that reality. This is a part of one's pre-arranged journey not a separate 'destination'. Although you never leave Spirit, reality manifestation is a common denominator until you 'return' and/or forego physical and non-physical learning venues.

The so-named "Advanced Masters" are very high vibration beings who use names like Michael or Gabriel since they represented the ideas of beings "next to God". This is also the variant found in the Old Testament albeit the verbiage has been so artlessly tampered with as to be practically useless.

Archangels are considered the next set of non-physical beings once removed from All That Is by our ET bros and sisses.

Thanks for that.


The archangels are one thing, but what about the demons, the dark 'side'? Is there ever a chance that they'd swop 'sides'. Are they quite content literally torturing people for ever, or do they too have holidays in Ibiza? I know, I'm sort of joking, but sort of not.

I have in my mind an idea that they play an important role for God. There appears to be a respect for Him even among the dark side, maybe it's fear rather than respect?

By the way, it's good to see you posting interesting stuff here, there's a lesson there somewhere. 

The archangels are one thing, but what about the demons, the dark 'side'? Is there ever a chance that they'd swap 'sides'. Are they quite content literally torturing people for ever, or do they too have holidays in Ibiza? I know, I'm sort of joking, but sort of not.

I have in my mind an idea that they play an important role for God. There appears to be a respect for Him even among the dark side, maybe it's fear rather than respect?

The fear of "God" is the dark energies reflection of their fear of your own power...as the creator/arranger of your physical reality and all that is in it...including the light and the dark. You do not control their existence but you do control whether or not you allow them to influence you.

If you do allow them control or interference, that is a valid path, see it through until you are sick and tired of being sick and tired of that experience. Then dump them. They go off to Ibiza.  

As to "God" here is the definition of "God" aka The One who became All That Is (God).

"The picture is this; imagine a completely infinite empty black void, have you got that? (Easy)
Now imagine a single subatomic particle in the void and that's all there is. (okay) have you got that? (No problem)
Alright, now because there is nothing else but this single subatomic particle, no laws applied to it. If it wants to it can move at infinite speed. Therefore you will understand that if it can move in infinite speed, it can be anywhere and in fact can be everywhere within the entirety of the infinite void all at once.


So if it traces a certain geometric crystalline like pattern overlapping its own path again and again and again in certain ways, where it overlaps the least will be what you consider to be empty space, where overlaps the most will be the densification of matter.

But the idea is that this creates all parallel realities, all time frames, and all dimensions of experience. This one single particle appears next to itself so quickly you think it’s two particles, you think it's three particles, you think it's 4, 5, 6... a billion, a trillion, a quadrillion particles. But it’s all the same particle. Every single one of you, every single one of us, every single star, every single planet, every single chair, every single tree is made up literally not the same kind of particle literally the same one particle in the ultimate time sharing event." ~Kryon/Lee Marshall

You do not control their existence but you do control whether or not you allow them to influence you.

That's interesting because I am aware of their existence but somehow don't feel that they affect me.

That may be wishful thinking....