2017-09-10, 07:15 PM
(2017-09-10, 05:03 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]The Seth material at first look seems inspiring and may be the truth in some sense, but it has the same inherent problems that have been pointed out many times by non-believers: Wait a minute - what is the nature of this being that is doing all this striving to realize all it can be? What is its relationship to the human, I mean for instance the human reading this thread right now? It seems to me that this system is set up for the benefit of this being, not the human. Secondly, this being in its natural realm of existence already has all the knowledge and qualities the Seth material claims it wants to realize in the Earth environment. Why go to all this trouble? Presumably, in order to experience the limitations that do not exist in its native realm and to experience the achievement of the difficult things that are not difficult in its native realm. It would seem that the human is mainly the means to experience these things.
I am somewhat dubious about accepting all of the Seth material at face value too. I have my doubts about the Seth personality, being more inclined to think of "him" as a creation of Jane Robert's own psyche. Indeed, she herself wondered whether that might be the case. In which case she may have been channeling information from - what should we call it - the collective consciousness? The Akashic Record? I'm sure that such material rarely comes through unadulterated; there is probably some role for the local consciousness in reassembling the data which might be subject to interpretation.
However, I think the fact that Jane Roberts was a well educated person with a good vocabulary and proven writing skills (she was a novelist) probably resulted in the Seth Material being more comprehensive than most other channeled works. She seems to have been close to the ideal delivery medium.
I don't see the separation of spirit and human that you seem to be convinced of. I think that the earth experience has been created precisely because the "natural" realm of spirit can't provide the same challenges. But, in my view, the human is a fragment of the whole, not some proxy created to suffer and die so that some other being can watch from on high like a scientist with a lab rat. The experience of the human is integral to and experienced by the whole.