Psience Quest

"All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks ..."

(2017-11-01, 07:10 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ] I know I'm going to regret asking but I'm curious   how do you know ? (a machine that can see consciousness has already happened in some alien civilisation ? ). Call me a tad "backward" but it's somewhat beyond my boggle factor.

Why would you regret asking? Does the potential answer scare you?  

Well, 'A Tad Backward' if you were introduced to [the teachings of] beings, off Earth or not, which included information about how to go about deriving the greatest possible experience from this physiological construct we call 'reality', and you tested that incredibly important information and found it was not only simple but it works, would you begin to trust that source?

ET beings have demonstrated that they can travel instantaneously anywhere at anytime for any reason. One factor in this accomplishment is their 'construction' of sentient, conscious craft (ships). Depending upon the species or faction thereof, there may or may not be 'technology' involved such as 'machines that see consciousness' or better yet, are conscious.

The reason this is beyond your boggle factor is one of three.

1) You have shut off that fact that everything is possible if you can imagine it.
2) The idea has no resonance with you and you cannot be what you are not the vibration of...first.
3) #1 and #2

(2017-11-01, 08:08 PM)Michael Larkin Wrote: [ -> ]It's like Donald Hoffman says: we can't take what we perceive literally, but that doesn't have to mean that we can't take it seriously. Whatever a speeding train literally is, it surely can seriously damage us if we step in front of it.

(2017-11-01, 08:18 PM)Pssst Wrote: [ -> ]Why would you regret asking? Does the potential answer scare you?  

Well, 'A Tad Backward' if you were introduced to [the teachings of] beings, off Earth or not, which included information about how to go about deriving the greatest possible experience from this physiological construct we call 'reality', and you tested that incredibly important information and found it was not only simple but it works, would you begin to trust that source?

ET beings have demonstrated that they can travel instantaneously anywhere at anytime for any reason. One factor in this accomplishment is their 'construction' of sentient, conscious craft (ships). Depending upon the species or faction thereof, there may or may not be 'technology' involved such as 'machines that see consciousness' or better yet, are conscious.

The reason this is beyond your boggle factor is one of three.

1) You have shut off that fact that everything is possible if you can imagine it.
2) The idea has no resonance with you and you cannot be what you are not the vibration of...first.
3) #1 and #2

Why would you regret asking? Does the potential answer scare you?

No, but the statements you are making are extraordinarily bizarre not only for their "content" but the "authority" with which you state them. I'm sure you realise this is going to limit (to say the least) discussion on a science forum, even one that allows for Psi.

However, as I said, it takes all sorts to make an interesting forum.

(2017-11-02, 02:50 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ]Why would you regret asking? Does the potential answer scare you?

No, but the statements you are making are extraordinarily bizarre not only for their "content" but the "authority" with which you state them. I'm sure you realise this is going to limit (to say the least) discussion on a science forum, even one that allows for Psi.

However, as I said, it takes all sorts to make an interesting forum.

I prefer fortune cookies tbh.

(2017-11-02, 02:50 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ]Why would you regret asking? Does the potential answer scare you?

No, but the statements you are making are extraordinarily bizarre not only for their "content" but the "authority" with which you state them. I'm sure you realise this is going to limit (to say the least) discussion on a science forum, even one that allows for Psi.

However, as I said, it takes all sorts to make an interesting forum.

Let's try this again.

"Well, 'A Tad Backward' if you were introduced to [the teachings of] beings, off Earth or not, which included information about how to go about deriving the greatest possible experience from this physiological construct we call 'reality', and you tested that incredibly important information and found it was not only simple but it works, would you begin to trust that source?"

(2017-11-02, 04:41 PM)Obiwan Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer fortune cookies tbh.

I wondered what you meant, Obiwan and then it dawned on me. You mean seeing into the future ? What I was getting at was
is it conceivable that there might one day be a machine/device that can detect "consciousness?"

(2017-11-02, 05:22 PM)Pssst Wrote: [ -> ]and you tested that incredibly important information

How can I test it ?

(2017-11-02, 05:37 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ]I wondered what you meant, Obiwan and then it dawned on me. You mean seeing into the future ? What I was getting at was
is it conceivable that there might one day be a machine/device that can detect "consciousness?"

Alas no tim, you’re overestimating me
I was referring to Pssst’s pearls of wisdom.

But now that you mention it... it’s an interesting question. In a sense we can already detect it I suppose, with our own consciousness. As for a machine or device I don’t know. I guess we’d need to know it’s nature to know what a device would have to measure.

(2017-11-02, 05:39 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ]How can I test it ?

Thanks for the conversation.