(2017-09-21, 09:58 PM)Pssst Wrote: [ -> ]Fairies are interdimensional elemental beings, Grey aliens are extraterrestrial beings usually with planetary associations e.g Zeta Reticuli. As to evidence, I have no idea what you would consider to be evidential so I rarely play an evidence card (for anyone).
You've just given the basic definition of terms, so... you're right, but you're not really contributing anything by giving the definition of terms.
There are many similarities and overlaps between both categories of experiences. In some cases it sounds like the same old play with different costumes... which naturally leads to the question: do both categories of experience have common origins?
Since deception is a key element of both categories of experience, how do we know that the deceivers and shape-shifters have not merely changed costumes backstage? Or are they archetypal projections of the collective psyche cast into slightly different forms? You said yourself that it is all an illusion anyway.
(2017-09-22, 07:06 PM)Hurmanetar Wrote: [ -> ]You've just given the basic definition of terms, so... you're right, but you're not really contributing anything by giving the definition of terms.
There are many similarities and overlaps between both categories of experiences. In some cases it sounds like the same old play with different costumes... which naturally leads to the question: do both categories of experience have common origins?
Since deception is a key element of both categories of experience, how do we know that the deceivers and shape-shifters have not merely changed costumes backstage? Or are they archetypal projections of the collective psyche cast into slightly different forms? You said yourself that it is all an illusion anyway.
you're right, but you're not really contributing anything by giving the definition of terms.
(2017-09-22, 07:06 PM)Hurmanetar Wrote: [ -> ]There are many similarities and overlaps between both categories of experiences. In some cases it sounds like the same old play with different costumes... which naturally leads to the question: do both categories of experience have common origins?
Since deception is a key element of both categories of experience, how do we know that the deceivers and shape-shifters have not merely changed costumes backstage? Or are they archetypal projections of the collective psyche cast into slightly different forms? You said yourself that it is all an illusion anyway.
Humanity is quite accustomed to integrating "new" and fantastic intelligence and substance. For centuries, we have been busy concocting images of Ultraterrestrials (faeries, devas, and elementals). We take the images of what we know, and we wrap them around the energies we don't know, or have forgotten. This is the core process of all creation. Perception is creation, not the other way around. Everything already exists. But not for us, until we choose to let it in. Once we do, it becomes us---even though we choose to imagine that it is still separate.
Is that better?
(2017-09-22, 07:25 PM)Pssst Wrote: [ -> ]Humanity is quite accustomed to integrating "new" and fantastic intelligence and substance. For centuries, we have been busy concocting images of Ultraterrestrials (faeries, devas, and elementals). We take the images of what we know, and we wrap them around the energies we don't know, or have forgotten. This is the core process of all creation. Perception is creation, not the other way around. Everything already exists. But not for us, until we choose to let it in. Once we do, it becomes us---even though we choose to imagine that it is still separate.
Is that better?
I'm not disagreeing with you, and I think the perspective you present has value if one doesn't get stuck in it. If one gets stuck in it, it is just dogma with new labels and of little practical value.
"Why did the chicken cross the road?" ... "to manifest the illusory reality of the other side!"
I've looked through the lens of "everything is an illusion" and "everything is the opposite of what it seems" sufficiently long enough that a nice bedtime story, a hot cup of tea, and good old naive realism offers a more satisfying mindfuck. And that, I think, might be the greatest value in the "unreality of reality" perspective: it can help you appreciate and enjoy simple ordinary reality. Once we explore the boundaries of our cage and quit trying to escape it, we can relax and make the best of our stay here... I say that as someone who is still clawing at the edges, bound and determined to escape it.
(2017-09-22, 08:17 PM)Hurmanetar Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not disagreeing with you, and I think the perspective you present has value if one doesn't get stuck in it. If one gets stuck in it, it is just dogma with new labels and of little practical value.
"Why did the chicken cross the road?" ... "to manifest the illusory reality of the other side!"
I've looked through the lens of "everything is an illusion" and "everything is the opposite of what it seems" sufficiently long enough that a nice bedtime story, a hot cup of tea, and good old naive realism offers a more satisfying mindfuck. And that, I think, might be the greatest value in the "unreality of reality" perspective: it can help you appreciate and enjoy simple ordinary reality. Once we explore the boundaries of our cage and quit trying to escape it, we can relax and make the best of our stay here... I say that as someone who is still clawing at the edges, bound and determined to escape it.
Tar--the smartest guy in Texas.
