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‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Object

By Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean

Quote:“Wow, what is that, man?” one exclaims. “Look at it fly!”

No one in the Defense Department is saying that the objects were extraterrestrial, and experts emphasize that earthly explanations can generally be found for such incidents. Lieutenant Graves and four other Navy pilots, who said in interviews with The New York Times that they saw the objects in 2014 and 2015 in training maneuvers from Virginia to Florida off the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, make no assertions of their provenance.

But the objects have gotten the attention of the Navy, which earlier this year sent out new classified guidance for how to report what the military calls unexplained aerial phenomena, or unidentified flying objects.

(2019-05-29, 02:12 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: [ -> ]‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Object

By Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean

I really never thought I would see the day.
I'm  both proud and humbled,  to experience such a formally ridiculed  subject gaining respect. 
It renews my faith in the world and holds out a beacon of hope for other maliained subjects.

The Anomalist for 30 May has a round-up of reports and discussion:
https://www.anomalist.com/

As these daily articles disappear after a week or so, here are the links:
http://devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15...sed-to-be/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2...that-fact/
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cul...ts-840902/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini...-you-think
https://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot...s.html?m=1

Commander David Fravor gives a long form interview on stage with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp at the McMenamins UFO Festival for their 20 year anniversary celebration (https://www.UFOfest.com).

Jason Colavito thinks these reports are essentially just promotion for the History Channel "To the Stars" series. He sees it as "UFO bullshit":
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/new-yo...ry-channel

Also, courtesy of the Daily Grail, here's a long article discussing the official denial that Luiz Elizondo of "To the Stars" even worked for the AATIP UFO investigation program. The claim from "To the Stars" was that he had actually been its director:
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-...-pentagon/

Courtesy of the Anomalist - here are links to a couple of articles by Tyler Rogoway at The Drive. The first suggests the UFO encounters off the south-east coast of the USA in 2014-5 were very widespread and frequent. The second discusses the possibility that the UFOs may have been submarine-launched balloons incorporating radar reflectors, designed to stimulate enemy air defences so that their electromagnetic emissions can be recorded and analysed:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28...-squadrons
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28...reflectors

(2019-06-04, 10:12 AM)Chris Wrote: [ -> ]Jason Colavito thinks these reports are essentially just promotion for the History Channel "To the Stars" series. He sees it as "UFO bullshit":
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/new-yo...ry-channel

Also, courtesy of the Daily Grail, here's a long article discussing the official denial that Luiz Elizondo of "To the Stars" even worked for the AATIP UFO investigation program. The claim from "To the Stars" was that he had actually been its director:
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-...-pentagon/

So what is your take? Is this all a big psy op? A trap to lure in everyone with even a marginal interest in the subject and then later disclose a perfectly reasonable explanation for everything and discredit Luis et al to teach us all a lesson that fringe cannot be trusted and that we need a centralized authority to vet information and to put such a bitter taste in our mouths at being duped that we won't ever want to look into this subject or any "alternative" subject again? I gave this a decent chance of being the case initially, but it seems less and less likely now. But maybe the hook is set and I don't care because I'm just enjoying the taste of the bait too much?

(2019-06-25, 06:34 PM)Hurmanetar Wrote: [ -> ]So what is your take? Is this all a big psy op? A trap to lure in everyone with even a marginal interest in the subject and then later disclose a perfectly reasonable explanation for everything and discredit Luis et al to teach us all a lesson that fringe cannot be trusted and that we need a centralized authority to vet information and to put such a bitter taste in our mouths at being duped that we won't ever want to look into this subject or any "alternative" subject again? I gave this a decent chance of being the case initially, but it seems less and less likely now. But maybe the hook is set and I don't care because I'm just enjoying the taste of the bait too much?

I think your guess is as good as mine - probably better, if you've been following it closely.

So, te US military saw an actual UFO of sorts? Well, I'm iimpressed, considering that I've never believed in them. Could it be some experimental aircraft?

Still really interesting.

(2019-06-26, 04:23 PM)Raf999 Wrote: [ -> ]So, te US military saw an actual UFO of sorts? Well, I'm iimpressed, considering that I've never believed in them. Could it be some experimental aircraft?

Still really interesting.

You realise that the term "actual UFO" simply means something unknown? It doesn't imply it was anything specific.