Woohoo! My first significant ESP test!

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(2018-10-02, 06:21 PM)diverdown Wrote: For example, using the method above, I got this;

Wow that's an amazing result, p=0.005. Do you just look straight through the cards and go by the one you're drawn to first?
(2018-10-02, 06:38 PM)Oliver Wrote: Wow that's an amazing result, p=0.005. Do you just look straight through the cards and go by the one you're drawn to first?

I pretty much just looked at the point that is centre of the screen within the cards, whilst keeping all of cards within my field of view, and used my peripheral vision to 'select' the one that 'jumped' at me first. 

Another data point is that I've had a few pints and as a result, I'm quite relaxed and my conscious mind isn't as in control as it would normally be. Or my prefrontal cortex. Or whatever you want to call it, you all know what I mean  Big Grin

EDIT - And, I was quite confident that I was going to get the right answer; I hardly spent any time at all 'thinking'. I just picked.

EDIT #2 - Basically, no second guessing allowed! Otherwise that affects the whole 'flow'.
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In view of the scores posted here, I couldn't resist having a go myself, and to my surprise I scored 11/25, or 44%, at my first attempt (p=0.0056). That was using the Zener cards in clairvoyance mode.

Are we sure this test is kosher?

[Edit: As a test, I repeated the trial using an online random number generator to make my choices, and scored 3/25.]

[Further edit: I did three more runs and got 5/25, 1/25 and 1/25. The last one was with colours rather than symbols.
Then I decided I'd try to go low rather than high, so I did two more runs with colours, and scored 3/25 and 6/25. Hmm.]
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(2018-10-02, 07:12 PM)Chris Wrote: In view of the scores posted here, I couldn't resist having a go myself, and to my surprise I scored 11/25, or 44%, at my first attempt (p=0.0056). That was using the Zener cards in clairvoyance mode.

Are we sure this test is kosher?

[Edit: As a test, I repeated the trial using an online random number generator to make my choices, and scored 3/25.]

From looking at the code it's using the browser's Math.random() js function which should be pretty random. I can't see anything wrong with the js but take a look. The fact that you scored below chance using the online RNG suggests it's valid.
(2018-10-02, 08:44 PM)Oliver Wrote: From looking at the code it's using the browser's Math.random() js function which should be pretty random. I can't see anything wrong with the js but take a look. The fact that you scored below chance using the online RNG suggests it's valid.

This one is a php script, isn't it?
(2018-10-02, 09:40 PM)Chris Wrote: This one is a php script, isn't it?

No the server is php but if you start the test then do view source, you see the js. There's the RNG and the adding of scores/percentages as well as the text at the  end.

So the server is just filling in some variables depending on the type of test chosen. You could take the  js and run it as a local web page it would work the same.
(2018-10-02, 09:46 PM)Oliver Wrote: No the server is php but if you start the test then do view source, you see the js. There's the RNG and the adding of scores/percentages as well as the text at the  end.

So the server is just filling in some variables depending on the type of test chosen. You could take the  js and run it as a local web page it would work the same.

Thanks. I see - so there's no possibility of anything funny being done by the server done out of sight.
(2018-10-03, 06:33 AM)Chris Wrote: Thanks. I see - so there's no possibility of anything funny being done by the server done out of sight.

No, there's no communication with the server unless you click "Reset test parameters". The most likely artefact is the browser's RNG being (even slightly) predictable. I find that unlikely, and subconscious predicting of a PRNG is nearly as remarkable an ability as psi.
Another 10/25. During the test I was doing lots of loving-kindness meditation for the colors. It might sound a bit silly, but I repeated metta phrases for each of the colors. So during an ordinary metta meditation you would say to yourself "may all men be happy", "may all women be happy", etc. I did that for all the colors: "may all blue beings be happy", "may all green beings be happy", etc. During for example "may all blue beings be happy" I'd imagine the blue oceans and all that's in there being happy. Then I'd try and feel which color responded the strongest.

Quite a few times, I felt it was between two colors: so between blue and green. Then I might choose blue then green, but the right answers were green then blue! I think if I can get better at discerning that order I could score over 50%. It takes quite a lot of energy to maintain the loving-kindness state, so I will continue doing a couple of experiments a day then rest.

   
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(2018-10-03, 08:56 AM)Oliver Wrote: No, there's no communication with the server unless you click "Reset test parameters". The most likely artefact is the browser's RNG being (even slightly) predictable. I find that unlikely, and subconscious predicting of a PRNG is nearly as remarkable an ability as psi.

I suppose it wouldn't be hard to set up some tests like this on psiencequest.net, in which the server generated the random numbers and recorded the guesses. The kind of trials people are doing here would then become evidential.
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