Study: Losing the Self in NDEs

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(2022-09-08, 01:47 PM)Ninshub Wrote: Hi Durward, you're saying several things in this post but I'm trying to clarify for myself one of those things. Are you saying in effect that you don't think NDEs are anomalous/paranormal, that they're just brain-based?

I'm saying that I believe it is impossible to say one way or the other using this method of research, and that we need more than personal accounts of NDE experiences.
Thus the examples of other things that can account for these types of experiences. To just exclude those examples or cut them out of all logic is a slippery slope.

As with many other things I try to study, when you have multiple possible reasons that can account for experiences, you have to consider all of them, weigh them properly, and not jump to conclusions. Most people tend to lump everything together as the same reason, the same result. 

Some are likely interesting and NDE. Some are likely oxygen deprivation. Some might be DMT release. Assuming EVERYTHING is paranormal is the mistake.

As eager as we might be to want to assign this information to something, I am careful about wishful thinking, magical thinking, religious thinking, and the influence of this on logical decisions.

Keep an open mind.
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(2022-09-08, 02:08 PM)Valmar Wrote: Durward's... rambling rant, for want of a polite-sounding way of saying that, suggests as much, with all that talk about hallucinations, being able to supposedly induce something extremely similar with DMT, oxygen deprivation, etc.

I am vividly reminded of the discussions on here about all of that from a few years ago or so. I've lost track of the passing of time on here, alas. I've been too much of a lurker...

Interesting how certain topics keep getting regurgitated like barf, usually because there is no actual conclusion or real answer to it.
 
Anything floating like this usually ends up in the religion pile, which allows people to decide what they think it is, while conveniently ignoring what it really could be.

For want of being polite, if people would bother to be polite and actually try and read or comprehend things before being turds...  
It isn't a rambling rant. Maybe it becomes one when there is no focus and a short attention span?

Do I have to say something about flagging the insults on this forum AGAIN?
Thanks for clarifying, Durward!

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