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I think the previous few posts on the Wuhan Virus thread have shown just how important it is to have somewhere where members can discuss things outside of things PSI. I am often taken with a strong notion to put something down on paper that has nothing to do with psi. ‘Other topics’ was the place I went to on Skeptiko to do so, I felt it very important to be able to discuss these things with my friends at both places. I’ve recently left Skeptiko precisely because it has stopped being an open minded place where all views were accepted, if not exactly welcomed. It has become an echo chamber imo. I’d hate to see the same thing happen here.

Other purpose forums of course exist by the dozen, but my valued friends that were and are on Skeptiko or here on PQ are unique and I think very special to me. Although I’ve never met any of them in person, they nevertheless are a rare, unique bunch of people. That’s why I want to try to stay here, because it would take a long time to find, if it’s even possible now, such a forum. I welcome honest, robust discussion about non mainstream opinions. The post-mortem into this virus, many years hence, will maybe show how it is important to keep all avenues open, (an open mind) and not stick rigidly with one that may be leading down the wrong path. If a broken clock that is only getting the right answer twice a day is (by whatever method) getting a very important answer right, surely we would be fools not to listen to what it has to say? 

The last thing I would like to see would be the loss of Chris, Malf, Linda and others that do not like a lot of my thinking on certain topics. But is the opposite true? It’s ok, it’s understandable, I don’t hold anything against them. None of us hold the truth, but occasionally, all of us bring forth nuggets of wisdom that are as rare as they are hard to see. Of that I’m quite sure - not certain, of course! 

Some here like to put all our faith in Science, but what is Science without human beings, with all their frailties? It’s nothing. Some maybe hold more store in the esoteric while others prefer a mixture, I would probably say I am in that category. Some seem to think that the mainstream holds more truth than that outside it. Well, possibly so, but the mainstream are floundering about seeking answers just as much as those outside, that much is clear. Don’t be so certain of things that we don’t understand fully. And what do we understand fully?
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(This post was last modified: 2020-04-14, 12:09 PM by Stan Woolley.)
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There's no personal axe to grind on the matter for me, I'm in hospital at present dealing with unrelated health issues.  However, a thought occurred to me. There is an amazing facility provided by none other than Laird, something called 'conversations'. Start one, invite whoever you like, and if there are technical features missing that you'd like, this might be an opportunity to find out, give the thing some proper beta-testing.
https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-p...versations
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(2020-04-14, 12:47 PM)Typoz Wrote: There's no personal axe to grind on the matter for me, I'm in hospital at present dealing with unrelated health issues.  However, a thought occurred to me. There is an amazing facility provided by none other than Laird, something called 'conversations'. Start one, invite whoever you like, and if there are technical features missing that you'd like, this might be an opportunity to find out, give the thing some proper beta-testing.
https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-p...versations

I’ve been talking to Laird using conversations for some time now. I considered using it to tell Aussie Mike about my link, but there might have been others who also wanted to see it, that had read Mike’s post.

‘Conversations’ surely has its place, but it is not open to everyone, and as such has a air of censorship or picking the right people about it that doesn’t feel right. I’m not being purposefully awkward, or at least I don’t think I am. 

Hope it’s not too serious and that you’re back home soon enough.  Thumbs Up
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Best wishes for you Typoz!
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Sorry I can't be of much help to you Stan. I read a lot of posts in threads that I never comment on, mainly because I honestly don't see the point (personally).  Politics and economics are topics I'm particularly clued up on (because I studied them) but it just doesn't interest me to grind it out with others. But I don't have a problem with those that want to do that.
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(2020-04-14, 05:32 PM)tim Wrote: Politics and economics are topics I'm particularly clued up on (because I studied them)

A Facebook friend studied economics at Oxford, and reckons now, that most of what he learned there was wrong. Then again, he’s a contrarian like me!  Big Grin
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(2020-04-14, 05:47 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: A Facebook friend studied economics at Oxford, and reckons now, that most of what he learned there was wrong. Then again, he’s a contrarian like me! 

Well some of it is simply 'opinion' of course, but what we can say with certainty is that planned economies (like the old Soviet Union model) don't work and never will. Yet we still have some political dinosaurs (idiots) who want to inflict Socialism on us (and I don't mean the socialism of Aneurin Bevan).

Harnessed capitalism seems to work the best but of course it's not perfect (neither will any system ever be). The factor that always ruins the best intentions is the nature of human beings. (Blame God) 

There, how's that for a boring, patronising little homily, Stan ? Would you like me to continue....   Big Grin
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(2020-04-14, 12:47 PM)Typoz Wrote: ... I'm in hospital at present dealing with unrelated health issues. 
By the way I'm now home and on the mend. There are more serious problems which afflict people, but I just had a rough couple of weeks. Received a lot of help for which I am grateful.
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(2020-04-18, 06:08 PM)Typoz Wrote: By the way I'm now home and on the mend. There are more serious problems which afflict people, but I just had a rough couple of weeks. Received a lot of help for which I am grateful.

Maybe you are allowed a glass of your favourite tipple, Typoz ? Glad to hear that you're okay!
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Great news, Typoz - thanks for letting us know. Best wishes for your continued recovery.
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