I've found one more "table fight" demonstration by Muti.
This is an infamous demo that I remember seeing on TV when I was a kid. It must have been 1983-84.
http://www.lucianomuti.it/video7.html
(you need the Flash Player installed)
The position of the table is baffling, but these demonstration always leave you with a sense of ambiguity. It's definitely weird but there could be ways to fake it. At the page above the first part of the video is cut. Before the experiment there was a discussion about the weight of the table and the fact that people in the TV studio had inspected the table to check if there was anything strange with it, to no avail.
And here's an old article from National Enquirer talking about a similar experiment. This one is in English.
it's grainy as heck but still readable.
http://www.lucianomuti.it/images/p033_1_00.jpg
I suppose the National Enquirer isn't/wasn't a primary source of scientific material, so take it with as many grains of salt as you wish.
(2017-08-20, 06:37 PM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]I've never watched this stuff before, and I gotta say, I felt pretty uncomfortable watching this... I soothed myself somewhat, by accepting that the table was really just a very large Ouija board puck being moved over the floor, rather than over a Ouija board. But still felt a little freaked out, seeing apparently normal adults engaging in this sort of behavior.
For me, I'm OK with the adults engaging in the behavior : ) ,,, it's just that I don't find the demonstration very convincing. If the table lifted off the ground? now that would be interesting... The fact that people could drag a light table around the room with a bit of finger pressure doesn't mean much to me.
I'll admit, I didn't watch the whole video,,, did I miss anything that was actually convincing to anyone?
(2017-08-23, 07:24 AM)Bucky Wrote: [ -> ]"medium Cathy Gibb proves life after death by table turning"
That title has some involuntary Python-esque humor in it....
"philosoper Bill Smith proves free will by dish washing"
But other than that cool video.
I've seen a very similar thing done over here by a rather famous sensitive. He gathered a group of people, they started joking singing creating a very upbeat atomsphere and things (tables, chairs) started moving around.
In that case the claim was PK, rather than spirit intervention. I think it's pretty hard to distinguish among the two.
I'll see if I can find the video(s).
True- PK and spirit intervention are different things,,, but demonstrating either one is a big deal I think.
As I said earlier,,, I just don't see this as a very good demonstration of either.
I might be wrong but I thought the purpose of table-tipping was communication? If there is nothing communicated, even if it's not deliberately faked, what's the point?
(2017-08-23, 03:34 PM)Bucky Wrote: [ -> ]I've found one more "table fight" demonstration by Muti.
This is an infamous demo that I remember seeing on TV when I was a kid. It must have been 1983-84.
http://www.lucianomuti.it/video7.html
(you need the Flash Player installed)
The position of the table is baffling, but these demonstration always leave you with a sense of ambiguity. It's definitely weird but there could be ways to fake it. At the page above the first part of the video is cut. Before the experiment there was a discussion about the weight of the table and the fact that people in the TV studio had inspected the table to check if there was anything strange with it, to no avail.
Most of the time the table seems to be close to the balance point, where virtually no effort is required to keep it in place.
At the start Muti on the left leans heavily over the table in order to tilt it towards himself. Later, the woman with the red sleeves has her wrists angled behind the edge of the table, not on top, so she can push it away from herself.
Most of the time the camera angle doesn't even show much, with one person hidden behind the next, anything could be taking place (stray thumbs underneath - if necessary?).
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Pretty unimpressive. Too many ways to fake this.
It's exciting in that if even just one telekinetic or poltergeist type event can be shown genuine it would stand physics on its head. I'm certain these events happen but disregarded by science. Shame