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(2017-11-03, 05:05 PM)Steve001 Wrote: [ -> ]Read and become knowledgeable. Know that pure scientists only goal is to discover how things work.
By the way, no scientist is an authority which is more appropriately ascribed to political, judicial and religious leaders. Instead used the words "expert" or "specialist".

This is painfully oblivious to the fact that scientists are human, thus fallible, with their own set of biases that may blind them to contradictory opinions. This blindness is so common in the history of science. Schrödinger’s cat is a very solid example of this.
(2017-11-03, 05:05 PM)Steve001 Wrote: [ -> ]Read and become knowledgeable. Know that pure scientists only goal is to discover how things work.
By the way, no scientist is an authority which is more appropriately ascribed to political, judicial and religious leaders. Instead used the words "expert" or "specialist".

"Read and become knowledgeable. Know that pure scientists only goal is to discover how things work."

As long as "how things work" can be broken down to physical matter ?
(2017-11-03, 05:53 PM)Iyace Wrote: [ -> ]This is painfully oblivious to the fact that scientists are human, thus fallible, with their own set of biases that may blind them to contradictory opinions. This blindness is so common in the history of science. Schrödinger’s cat is a very solid example of this.

I didn't know Schrödinger's cat was blind. That's so sad.
(2017-11-03, 06:01 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ]"Read and become knowledgeable. Know that pure scientists only goal is to discover how things work."

As long as "how things work" can be broken down to physical matter ?

Don't forget physical also applies too forces.
(2017-11-03, 06:28 PM)Steve001 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't forget physical also applies to forces.

What do you mean by forces ?  And can you tell me what a "thought" is made out of ?
(2017-11-03, 05:05 PM)Steve001 Wrote: [ -> ]Read and become knowledgeable. Know that pure scientists only goal is to discover how things work.
By the way, no scientist is an authority which is more appropriately ascribed to political, judicial and religious leaders. Instead used the words "expert" or "specialist".

Directive, authoritative, and brief.  Thanks. Smile
(2017-11-03, 06:58 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean by forces ?  And can you tell me what a "thought" is made out of ?

Gravity. The electromagnetic force. Weak and Strong nuclear forces. Why didn't you search out the answer yourself?
Bookmark this site. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbd

"Thought" has no substance. It's an activity.
(2017-11-03, 07:51 PM)Steve001 Wrote: [ -> ]Gravity. The electromagnetic force. Weak and Strong nuclear forces. Why didn't you search out the answer yourself?
Bookmark this site. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbd

"Thought" has no substance. It's an activity.

So it’s non physical?
(2017-11-03, 07:51 PM)Steve001 Wrote: [ -> ]Gravity. The electromagnetic force. Weak and Strong nuclear forces. Why didn't you search out the answer yourself?
Bookmark this site. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbd

"Thought" has no substance. It's an activity.

Why didn't you search out the answer yourself ?

I wasn't asking you for the answers, I was asking you what you meant by forces !

Steve said > "Thought" has no substance. It's an activity."

Well if it's an activity, it must have some force making it exist or bringing it into existence (the mind ? ) So the mind must be something ? But you materialists with your heads stuck in the sand, cannot explain what it is made of or how it comes into existence, except that it somehow does...through neural complexity. But you cannot predict or tell us the number of neural connections between neurons that brings the mind into existence.

So absolutely the most crucial element of man, without which there is no man, you lot have no idea. Because you don't acknowledge that there's something else.
(2017-11-03, 08:08 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ]Why didn't you search out the answer yourself ?

I wasn't asking you for the answers, I was asking you what you meant by forces !

Steve said > "Thought" has no substance. It's an activity."

Well if it's an activity, it must have some force making it exist or bringing it into existence (the mind ? ) So the mind must be something ? But you materialists with your heads stuck in the sand, cannot explain what it is made of or how it comes into existence, except that it somehow does...through neural complexity. But you cannot predict or tell us the number of neural connections between neurons that brings the mind into existence.

So absolutely the most crucial element of man, without which there is no man, you lot have no idea. Because you don't acknowledge that there's something else.
Every metaphysic requires a free miracle. Physicalism requires 2.
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