Trees with “Crown Shyness” Mysteriously Avoid Touching Each Other

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I'm still wondering about the New Yorker video back there. It may well be chemical but I'm fascinated by how the plant knows which direction to "cast" in order to grab the pole. Also how the second plant knows that the pole is now occupied and starts casting around for another (which isn't there) before abandoning the effort.

I'm also wondering, Steve001, why you thought it necessary to start off your first response with a snipe at the other posters. You could have proposed your perfectly reasonable explanation without that.
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(This post was last modified: 2017-08-19, 09:00 PM by Kamarling. Edit Reason: corrected reference )
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(2017-08-19, 08:30 PM)Kamarling Wrote: I'm still wondering about the NYT video back there. It may well be chemical but I'm fascinated by how the plant knows which direction to "cast" in order to grab the pole. Also how the second plant knows that the pole is now occupied and starts casting around for another (which isn't there) before abandoning the effort.

I'm also wondering, Steve001, why you thought it necessary to start off your first response with a snipe at the other posters. You could have proposed your perfectly reasonable explanation without that.

Which plant casts about? 
I think it's important to make aware bias thinking.
(2017-08-19, 08:30 PM)Kamarling Wrote: I'm still wondering about the NYT video back there. It may well be chemical but I'm fascinated by how the plant knows which direction to "cast" in order to grab the pole. Also how the second plant knows that the pole is now occupied and starts casting around for another (which isn't there) before abandoning the effort.

Looking at the New Yorker article by Michael Pollan, it seems that Stefano Mancuso, who provided him with the time-lapse videos, thinks plants may be able to use echo-location:
http://michaelpollan.com/articles-archiv...ent-plant/

I haven't read it, but here's a paper co-authored by Mancuso, entitled "Acoustic and magnetic communication in plants: Is it possible?":
https://www.researchgate.net/publication...t_possible
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Steve001 Wrote:Which plant casts about? 

In the video linked by Laird (The New Yorker Magazine).


steve001 Wrote:I think it's important to make aware bias thinking.

The phrase "people in glass houses" springs to mind.
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When I was young, I worked at a golf course. Around the number three tee box a row of Aleppo pines had been planted to mitigate the damage caused by errant shots, to near by houses. What drew my attention was that the tree's were all growing away from the tee box at a very severe angle. They rather gave the impression that they were none to happy about doing forced duty as backstops.
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(2017-08-19, 08:58 PM)Kamarling Wrote: In the video linked by Laird (The New Yorker Magazine).



The phrase "people in glass houses" springs to mind.

True it is a bias, but its not a glass house.
(2017-08-19, 05:00 PM)Steve001 Wrote: I only asserted what is known. The creosote plant for one.  Look up allopathic interaction in plants. All plants don't. The point I am making is not to first look for metaphysical explanations.

I think you mean allelopathic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allelopathy

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So some biases are more ....i don't know robust perhaps?
Than other biases???

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