Paranormal Noises

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(2017-09-07, 09:45 PM)Max_B Wrote: Have you had any of your own thoughts about what that is all about..?

Somebody close dies... and over a short period of time afterwards, you awake to noises of violent movement and reorganization related to the deceased's room?

I don't recall being particularly frightened by it, but more like curiosity. As you might say nowadays, wtf IS that??

When asking my grandmother about hearing it or doing it to the negative, I was just like, 'huh... that's odd'.

I was already reading Frank Edwards books and similar as well as science fiction well before that incident so I was into the whole ufo/paranormal stuff at an early age.
In short, yeah, I was aware that I was witness to some kind of paranormal event.

Not sure if that answers your question or not though
(2017-09-07, 10:09 PM)Max_B Wrote: I agree, It feels cold, and uncomfortable that the murderer can make that statement at the end.

The feeling I get is the sort of sense I get of looking at an alligator etc.

It's like they are going through the motions, but somehow whilst missing their mammalian feelings.

That's the definition of a sociopath after all, isn't it. Smile
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(2017-09-08, 09:40 AM)Max_B Wrote: I just wonder if it's the appearance of some mental state in the world which can't become objective, so is only experienced subjectively. It just feels like the violent movements and reorganization tied to your grandfathers bedroom, say as much about the living dealing with his absence, as they do about those who have passed away. I don't mean it was just all in your mind - which it was - but that perhaps you and your grandmother became entwined with your grandfather and his absence during sleep... and the feelings came into the world for you upon waking... I don't know... but clearly your experience is something we don't yet understand that requires some rethinking.

Yes, I think I see where your going. Unless the furniture was actually, physically moved by some unknown agency then put back all in place the next day upon examination of the room, it only follows that it had to be a purely psychological/psychic kind of event.

However, I was awake. The noises definitely emanated from the room below and yet their probably wasn't a physical cause to the event.
My brother, who slept in the top bunk bed, claims he heard the noises as well.

There's been a big resurgence of Vallee's consciousness aspect of the ufo which in turn is connected to all other paranormal type of events.

Maybe there is some sort of malleability ranging from a sort of full on 100% objective 'physicalness', working in concert with the unconscious, to where parts of the physical reality of things start to drop out of the equation. That is, for all intents and purposes, my grandfathers furniture was flung around, but the objective physical cause and effect properties weren't necessary. <shrug> idk
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(2017-09-07, 10:09 PM)Max_B Wrote: I agree, It feels cold, and uncomfortable that the murderer can make that statement at the end.

The feeling I get is the sort of sense I get of looking at an alligator etc.

It's like they are going through the motions, but somehow whilst missing their mammalian feelings.

And I keep wondering about his metaphor of the dung-heap. What is the flower that grows there? The murderer's freedom? Where is the bright spot in someone murdering their young bride right after the wedding? Very strange indeed. If this fellow was in your work-place and you knew his history, would you be drawn to him in order to try and plumb the depths of that psyche? I don't think I could resist. Of course we all have dark sides that remain largely unexpressed through action or word.
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Concerning paranormal noises, there is one room in our house where for a few years I experienced distinct "raps" that definitely seemed to be in response to particular spoken or unspoken thoughts (usually opinions or statements of supposed fact).  I interpreted these noises as signals of agreement. The timing of the raps was uncanny - right after a particular statement or thought came the sound, not coming randomly at any time. I came up with two possible explanations assuming I was not hallucinating (the raps would often occur during conversations with my wife, and she also heard them). Both possible explanations were paranormal. One was that it was psychokinesis generated by my own subconscious mind. The other was that it was psychokinesis generated by a spirit entity. I decided that one likely mechanism was the generation of raps by psychokinetically applying a small amount of force in the required direction to carefully selected points of bound strain between wood beams in the ceiling and in the walls. The two beams or boards would then snap together or apart by a fraction of an inch, the stress release generating the rap. A spirit entity would presumably be able to manipulate only a very limited amount of physical energy. With this mechanism an entity could still generate audible raps. I was seeing a very talented spiritual healer and channeler at the time, and asked her guides if my theory was correct as to the mechanism of action. For what it's worth, she was told that I was correct.
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