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Orch-OR discussion
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This is a few years old, but I thought it was interesting and warranted more discussion than it got on Skeptiko: a back-and-forth between the Orch-OR crew and some of their critics.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...4513001188
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...4513001619
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...4513001917
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(08-20-2017, 07:34 PM)Will Wrote: This is a few years old, but I thought it was interesting and warranted more discussion than it got on Skeptiko: a back-and-forth between the Orch-OR crew and some of their critics.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...4513001188
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...4513001619
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...4513001917

IIRC that was a huge review of their ideas - lots of them, but I really don't know how I feel about Penrose's ideas on objective reduction, probably not much... I guess the main ideas I'm interested in come from Hammeroff and concern his early suggestion that these repeating helix shaped protein structures are playing a major role... but even there, he's wandered off script, and I think Luca Turin's ideas are now closer to the mark, as they concentrate on the cavities within protiens. This fit's better with what we observe. Turin does interesting experiments too.
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