Is Evil One of God's Tools?

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(2017-11-06, 06:31 PM)Pssst Wrote: In order for karma to be interpreted as judgmental, who is going to judge you?

Karma is entirely self-imposed. You create it by your beliefs and attitudes about yourself and the world. Any karma you "feel" is a belief, and something you chose to go through as a theme in this life. All beliefs can be changed.

"What you put out is what you get back". Law Three, simple physics.
There are a couple of ways to look at this. First, there is no need to be judged by a "supreme being" of some sort, for we constantly are judging ourselves (and other people). Some say this is bad and destructive, but what if there was no judgement? Maybe judgement/forgiveness/acceptance really comes from the divine aspect of ourselves? Maybe the cycle of transgression/judgement, confession/forgiveness and acceptance/learning ties into all of life and reincarnation is just a part? My two and a half cents.
(2017-11-13, 10:47 PM)Steve from ABQ Wrote: There are a couple of ways to look at this. First, there is no need to be judged by a "supreme being" of some sort, for we constantly are judging ourselves (and other people). Some say this is bad and destructive, but what if there was no judgement? Maybe judgement/forgiveness/acceptance really comes from the divine aspect of ourselves? Maybe the cycle of transgression/judgement, confession/forgiveness and acceptance/learning ties into all of life and reincarnation is just a part? My two and a half cents.

If you (pl) find that path makes sense to you, then by all means.

If you take the word 'judgement' and replace it with 'observation'... Thumbs Up

But as long as you choose to judge, you will be attaching yourself to that mode and becoming the same vibration.  “Judge not lest ye be judged,” does not mean that you are being judged from someone else outside, it means, as you tune into the vibration of invalidating another’s path, you invalidate yourself. 
 
By simply recognizing that you know what you prefer and that what you see around you is simply an observation of what others have chosen for themselves, then that allows you to know that even though you can observe it, it does not affect the vibration you chose to be, unless you chose to let it and create it for yourself.
I'll have a try but not sure I have a handle on this completely. Anyhow, here's my take on it.

Let's say there is action and there's a consequence of action. Maybe we can call that consequence karma.

Let's also say that some actions have consequences which may be constructive, helpful, loving, altruistic, etc. We might call that positive karma.

Conversely, there are actions which are destructive, selfish, hateful, intended to cause pain, etc. Negative karma.

My understanding is that any kind of karma between people creates a karmic bond - something like an entanglement in the quantum view of things. Further, in order to "heal" the damage of negative karma, the only way is to balance with positive karma. A pain inflicted is healed by a loving action. It is not healed by the perpetrator of the harmful action being punished by an equally painful negative action. Forgiveness on the part of the victim can help the victim's own healing process. Acknowledgement and remorse on the part of the perpetrator can help heal the perpetrator but, in the end, some form of positive action (I'm not sure whether this necessarily has to be directed towards the victim) seems to be required.
I do not make any clear distinction between mind and God. God is what mind becomes when it has passed beyond the scale of our comprehension.
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I don’t see why God also wouldn’t be a little bit evil. I’ve come to the conclusion that either God doesn’t exist, or is every bit as much evil and stupid as we are.
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(2017-11-14, 06:39 PM)Iyace Wrote: I don’t see why God also wouldn’t be a little bit evil. I’ve come to the conclusion that either God doesn’t exist, or is every bit as much evil and stupid as we are.

Perhaps you are conditioned by the religious mode of thinking of God as something separate from you: as a super-patriarch existing apart from His creation and pulling all the strings.

What I think of is a universal mind with the ability to create minds within mind, each with personalities and free will. What you call good or evil is a choice of action which we make freely. There may be universal laws such as the karma I described above but really, I don't think of myself as having the necessary perspective to see the big picture. Making judgements about the behaviour of God is just as naive as believing that we will all be judged after death. From all I have read - either from channeled or NDE accounts - that does not seem to be the case.
I do not make any clear distinction between mind and God. God is what mind becomes when it has passed beyond the scale of our comprehension.
Freeman Dyson
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This is a video posted in another thread by Stan Woolley. I post it here because the lady giving the talk, Natalie Sudman, includes a short description of God or, as she prefers, All That Is.

Skip forward to 13 minutes and continue for about a minute or so to catch what she says. By the way, the whole thing is probably worthwhile but I have only listened to less than half so far because I need to break off for a while to be elsewhere. [EDIT: I have now finished watching the video - excellent and fascinating talk.]

I do not make any clear distinction between mind and God. God is what mind becomes when it has passed beyond the scale of our comprehension.
Freeman Dyson
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Further to the video above and in keeping with the subject of this thread, here is a commentary on Natalie's NDE with some observations on the nature of good and evil, etc.

https://thesearchforlifeafterdeath.com/2...e-in-iraq/
I do not make any clear distinction between mind and God. God is what mind becomes when it has passed beyond the scale of our comprehension.
Freeman Dyson
I've often wondered what Gods tool room might look like?
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(2017-11-17, 11:12 PM)Oleo Wrote: I've often wondered what Gods tool room might look like?

Maybe you should ask, you might get a viewing.
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