Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program

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(2017-12-27, 01:19 PM)diverdown Wrote: ...alien abduction reports that describe a malevolent presence behind the ET...

Malevolent?
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(2017-12-27, 07:05 PM)Pssst Wrote: Malevolent?
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That sounds like Karla Turner interviewing someone that's acting as a medium for the grays.

Well, if ESP is related to the UFO thing (and it seems to be from what I've read), then reality has got a whole lot stranger because of the semi-official confirmation from the DoD and insiders. Now that doesn't mean that ESP is DEFINITELY related, but for me, the evidence is pointing in that direction. Question is, what are we 'ordinary' folk meant to do with this information? I'm talking about useful applications of this knowledge in our  day to day lives. 

I mean, I've had a telekinesis experience happen right infront of me, which defies any physicalist (at this time) explanation of what happened. That period of my life had a bit of high strangeness to it too with synchronicities happening more and meeting some special people, personally. 

So we have here TK stuff, this UFO semi-confirmation which from what I can tell, has a great deal to do with ESP ala Dr Jacques Valle, ala Ben Rich skunkworks guy, ala Grant Cameron and others involved from the inside. So just what is it that 'they' are trying to tell us AND, can we really trust these insiders that have spent their lives concealing information in one way or another? 

Just throwing thoughts out there btw.
(2017-12-27, 12:53 PM)diverdown Wrote: In that case then, are they not aware of that? Or was it just really sloppy powerpoint stuff that they added on last minute without checking the source? 

I'm still not sure what to make of all this. I keep switching between amazed and then suspicious.

It could be that the powerpoint presentation drew from this account of the story from another pilot which was published March 2015. This article included that photo as well as other photos that were not from the 2004 Nimitz incident. 

https://fightersweep.com/1460/x-files-edition/
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Here's another account of the 2004 Nimitz UFO incident from a crew member. Posted on Reddit 4 years ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1..._board_an/
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(2017-12-28, 12:07 PM) pid=\12811' Wrote:Pssst Wrote: Malevolent?
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That sounds like Karla Turner interviewing someone that's acting as a medium for the grays.

Well, if ESP is related to the UFO thing (and it seems to be from what I've read), then reality has got a whole lot stranger because of the semi-official confirmation from the DoD and insiders. Now that doesn't mean that ESP is DEFINITELY related, but for me, the evidence is pointing in that direction. Question is, what are we 'ordinary' folk meant to do with this information? I'm talking about useful applications of this knowledge in our  day to day lives. 

I mean, I've had a telekinesis experience happen right infront of me, which defies any physicalist (at this time) explanation of what happened. That period of my life had a bit of high strangeness to it too with synchronicities happening more and meeting some special people, personally. 

So we have here TK stuff, this UFO semi-confirmation which from what I can tell, has a great deal to do with ESP ala Dr Jacques Valle, ala Ben Rich skunkworks guy, ala Grant Cameron and others involved from the inside. So just what is it that 'they' are trying to tell us AND, can we really trust these insiders that have spent their lives concealing information in one way or another? 

Just throwing thoughts out there btw.


It was a Grey coming through in seance after hearing that the lady in the recording desired to communicate with one.

The only "extra" sensory capability required to interact with an ET craft is the intent to do so, the proper state of being (desire to inquire) and the relevance of that experience in your earth-life. So, in that sense, the link is made and if one wants to associate that with ESP, so be it if that term works.

What they are telling us isn't much to date. Let me play the other side of the coin.

To the Stars is trying to cloak Fravor’s account in a haze of false ultra top-secrecy. That leads to the the truth that Elizondo is remarketing  tales from the Internet as new and unusual government files. This, by extension, strongly suggests that the NY Times’ is off in the fringes in taking his claims about ET encounters at face value.

For me, when they drag out an ET craft propulsion unit or an electrogravitic generator, I'll be interested.
Quick followup.

DIA disavows the "Disclosure". Bet Bassett et al who got all lathered up saying TIME IS NOW THEY WILL DISCLOSE are slurping crow.

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(2017-12-28, 10:37 PM)Pssst Wrote: Quick followup.

DIA disavows the "Disclosure". Bet Bassett et al who got all lathered up saying TIME IS NOW THEY WILL DISCLOSE are slurping crow.

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The plot thickens, as they say!


Quote:Quote from the Sun article

"A spokesman for the US Defense Intelligence Agency said: "There is some confusion about this program and claims about its purpose in press reporting... the Defense Intelligence Agency has not released any information, files or videos."

But Department of Defense officials disputed this response, claiming they did not know what "confusion" the Defense Intelligence Agency was referring to - and stated they had been "clear" about the programme's aims.

A spokesman for the Department of Defense added: "The AATIP’s mandate, when it existed, was to assess far-term foreign advanced aerospace threats to the United States."


So the DIA are confused and the DoD are not confused. 


Left foot doesn't know what the right foot is doing apparently. Then again the Sun's reputation is quite poor in Britain, as it is a shabby tabloid newspaper. Who knows what kind of accuracy they employ in their efforts.
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(2017-12-29, 12:37 AM)diverdown Wrote: The plot thickens, as they say!




So the DIA are confused and the DoD are not confused. 


Left foot doesn't know what the right foot is doing apparently. Then again the Sun's reputation is quite poor in Britain, as it is a shabby tabloid newspaper. Who knows what kind of accuracy they employ in their efforts.

Whether they are accurate or not, you got the point.  Intelligence work can be a muddled mess.
(2017-12-27, 06:39 PM)Doug Wrote: Indeed, you'd think they'd have all the details nailed tight for their kickoff presentation, wouldn't you? But this is ufology, where rank speculation routinely passes for fact, and self-important hustlers masquerade as sober researchers. Never mind the inconvenient stuff; the credulous public and media watchdogs won't even notice or care.

One of the two videos recently released also appears to have been debunked, in terms of the "impossibly high acceleration" at which the object moves off the screen:



It turns out the zoom level is doubled as the object leaves the FLIR display screen. You'd think those responsible for analyzing the video before releasing it would have acquainted themselves with the types of screen data displayed before making the unfounded claim of high acceleration.

The video doesn't necessarily invalidate the rest of Cmdr. Dave Fravor's account of the sighting off the coast of San Diego in 2004. However, it does him no favors in demonstrating there was no rapid acceleration as the object left the display screen. By itself, the video could simply be showing a distant aircraft drifting beyond the FLIR's range.

More about this video can be found here:
https://www.metabunk.org/2004-uss-nimitz...age.t9190/


Thanks Doug.

I've heard conflicting reports on that metabunk article. I don't have the experience or knowledge necessary to really be able to validate claims of either or. I will say that it is interesting and I would like to see TTS comment on this aspect as it would clear things up, right?

It's one of the frustrating things about this field isn't it? Quite a few of us have to rely on those who know more, so when one side says one thing and the other says "No, it's not that", it's rather annoying! 

Keeping my ears and eyes open!
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Stan Friedman with Kathleen Marden weigh in on the Pentagon's Secret UFO Search. Stan mentions he is pleased with Tom DeLonge's efforts and the team of high profile people on the To The Stars Academy board. Kathy mentions how important Luis Elizondo, Chris Mellon and Dr. Hal Puthoff among others are to the board as well. Stan: "It's a new ballgame for UFOlogy!" 

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